From zaojashin at yahoo.com  Sun Aug 16 22:28:41 2009
From: zaojashin at yahoo.com (david johnson)
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 22:28:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GEM Development] some updates
Message-ID: <934467.74813.qm@web58608.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Greetings:

I made some update to my FreeGEM hobby project.
A mostly personal project but some on the list my find it
amusing.? The files are at 

??? http://www.geocities.com/zaojashin/freegem.html

if you care to look (there are some screenshots).

Notes these will be up until 10/26/09 at which time geocites will close.

Thanks for the help (posted here and on the individual websites)
by the folks on this mailing list.

Take care,

David Johnson




      
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From jem at archivalladolid.org  Mon Aug 17 11:05:09 2009
From: jem at archivalladolid.org (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Emilio_Mori_Recio?=)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:05:09 +0200
Subject: [GEM Development] some updates
Message-ID: <20090817180537.06D0A328003@ns2.simpits.org>

David, thank you for keeping us up to date.

But it's sad that your very individual effort is the only that (apparently)
still survives in GEM development, documentation or... anything. I'm
especially disappointed about the GEM wiki, which after months of waiting is
still unusable. I don't know if Owen is still reading this and what are the
real possibilities of the wiki being fixed (including being made the primary
wiki), but I would like to know... once more I offer myself to help remotely
with the fixing, or even to put up a new wiki in a server in our University,
if it's the best option.

Waiting for news... Best regards,

//     Jos? Emilio Mori Recio - http://www.gui.uva.es/~jem         \\
|| Administrador Inform?tico, Arzobispado de Valladolid y Archivo  ||
\\ Miembro 088 del Grupo Universitario de Inform?tica, Valladolid  // 



From topcatdrc at yahoo.com  Mon Aug 17 21:45:09 2009
From: topcatdrc at yahoo.com (Thomas Clayton)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:45:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GEM Development] some updates
In-Reply-To: <934467.74813.qm@web58608.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <860996.92037.qm@web82308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

David,

What version(s) of FreeGEM was (were) used in those projects?

I'm trying to determine it from window parts but I don't recognize any "landmarks". Neat "stuff", BTW.

Merci beaucoup!

Sincerely,

Thomas Clayton

--- On Mon, 8/17/09, david johnson <zaojashin at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: david johnson <zaojashin at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [GEM Development] some updates
> To: gem-dev at simpits.org
> Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 12:28 AM
> Greetings:
> 
> I made some update to my FreeGEM hobby project.
> A mostly personal project but some on the list my find it
> amusing.? The files are at 
> 
> ???
> http://www.geocities.com/zaojashin/freegem.html
> 
> if you care to look (there are some screenshots).
> 
> Notes these will be up until 10/26/09 at which time
> geocites will close.
> 
> Thanks for the help (posted here and on the individual
> websites)
> by the folks on this mailing list.
> 
> Take care,
> 
> David Johnson


From zaojashin at yahoo.com  Tue Aug 18 18:18:17 2009
From: zaojashin at yahoo.com (david johnson)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 18:18:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GEM Development] some updates
In-Reply-To: <20090817180537.06D0A328003@ns2.simpits.org>
Message-ID: <273330.81520.qm@web58606.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Hello Jos?,

Thanks for the comments.


Relative to GEM information, I've? found
that two ancient texts (of course) are readily available in the used book
market.   These being: 




Programer's Guide to GEM (Paperback)
by Phillip Balma & Willian Fitler 




The Gem: Operating System Handbook 

by Dave Prochnow



I have no idea if these will be useful
as I am still waiting from them to arrive.  However, the cost of the
texts was less than the shipping; thus, I was curious enough bite. 
These may bring me ?up to date? though.



David






--- On Mon, 8/17/09, Jos? Emilio Mori Recio <jem at archivalladolid.org> wrote:

From: Jos? Emilio Mori Recio <jem at archivalladolid.org>
Subject: Re: [GEM Development] some updates
To: gem-dev at simpits.org
Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 2:05 PM

David, thank you for keeping us up to date.

But it's sad that your very individual effort is the only that (apparently)
still survives in GEM development, documentation or... anything. I'm
especially disappointed about the GEM wiki, which after months of waiting is
still unusable. I don't know if Owen is still reading this and what are the
real possibilities of the wiki being fixed (including being made the primary
wiki), but I would like to know... once more I offer myself to help remotely
with the fixing, or even to put up a new wiki in a server in our University,
if it's the best option.

Waiting for news... Best regards,

//? ???Jos? Emilio Mori Recio - http://www.gui.uva.es/~jem? ? ? ???\\
|| Administrador Inform?tico, Arzobispado de Valladolid y Archivo? ||
\\ Miembro 088 del Grupo Universitario de Inform?tica, Valladolid? // 


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From zaojashin at yahoo.com  Tue Aug 18 18:24:48 2009
From: zaojashin at yahoo.com (david johnson)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 18:24:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GEM Development] some updates
In-Reply-To: <860996.92037.qm@web82308.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8204.27274.qm@web58601.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Hi Thomas,

Thanks for the comments.? 


Here is quick description of the system.
 I used the following version of the Pacific-C compiler:
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/devel/c/pacific/pacific.exe
(I have better luck with this ?older?
version)




I used John Elliott's version of the
desktop (version 3.2.4-pacc11).  The only modification I made when
recompiling was to modify the internal file viewer to use the 
up/down arrow keys from the keyboard. (the handle_key() function in
deskapps3.c)



I also used John's FreeGEM AES 3.00
alpha.  Here I only changed for value of NM-FILES in gemlib.h so that
the file selection window would show the complete content of my
directories. (Sometimes I like to use John's AES 3.00 stable version
as the window zooming is different).



The appearance and such I
changed to my linking using settings.app and these are saved in the
gem.cfg file.



I also used the FreeGEM 3.00 VDI/GDOS
(Eathan Clark's modification of ViewMax/3 code).  However, I stripped
out the bezier routines (just couldn't get the communication working
with my limited skills) and the use of the use of a gemsys.cfg file. 
Thus it's back to the GEM3 code but compiles fine with jwasmd.exe or
the like and is smaller.



I used Heinz Rath's SVG screen driver but
recompiled to VGA resolution using jwasmd.exe (I like the VGA screen
for GEM which I think is easy on the eyes).



Lastly, the OUTPUT.APP was something a
mindless experiment (please note I'm not a programmer and hobbies can
be illogical) as I disassembled the obj and lib files to recompile
with jwasmd.  



Sorry for the long reply.? I will say, in the end, the package does what I
like and provides me with some fun.



--David





--- On Tue, 8/18/09, Thomas Clayton <topcatdrc at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Thomas Clayton <topcatdrc at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [GEM Development] some updates
To: "GEM Development" <gem-dev at simpits.org>
Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 12:45 AM

David,

What version(s) of FreeGEM was (were) used in those projects?

I'm trying to determine it from window parts but I don't recognize any "landmarks". Neat "stuff", BTW.

Merci beaucoup!

Sincerely,

Thomas Clayton

--- On Mon, 8/17/09, david johnson <zaojashin at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: david johnson <zaojashin at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [GEM Development] some updates
> To: gem-dev at simpits.org
> Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 12:28 AM
> Greetings:
> 
> I made some update to my FreeGEM hobby project.
> A mostly personal project but some on the list my find it
> amusing.  The files are at 
> 
>    
> http://www.geocities.com/zaojashin/freegem.html
> 
> if you care to look (there are some screenshots).
> 
> Notes these will be up until 10/26/09 at which time
> geocites will close.
> 
> Thanks for the help (posted here and on the individual
> websites)
> by the folks on this mailing list.
> 
> Take care,
> 
> David Johnson

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From topcatdrc at yahoo.com  Tue Aug 18 20:58:37 2009
From: topcatdrc at yahoo.com (Thomas Clayton)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 20:58:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GEM Development] some updates
In-Reply-To: <8204.27274.qm@web58601.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <528512.90555.qm@web82304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


David,

I was thinking I'd get a short reply like OpenGEM 4.2. Obviously YOU "mix and match" to your own liking - a LOT!! As an ALMOST entirely lesser programmer (Do I even DESERVE the term at ALL?), I GREATLY appreciate insights as to who does (/ did) what with the various pieces that make up our multi-faceted GEM (pun intendED)! :-D

Sincerely,

Thomas Clayton
I couldn't help myself. It ... just came out .. that way!


--- On Tue, 8/18/09, david johnson <zaojashin at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: david johnson <zaojashin at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [GEM Development] some updates
> To: "GEM Development" <gem-dev at simpits.org>
> Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 8:24 PM
> Hi
> Thomas,
> 
> Thanks for the comments.? 
> 
> 
> Here is quick description of
> the system.
>  I used the following version of the Pacific-C
> compiler:
> http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/devel/c/pacific/pacific.exe
> (I have better luck with this
> ?older?
> version)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I used John Elliott's
> version of the
> desktop (version 3.2.4-pacc11).  The only modification I
> made when
> recompiling was to modify the internal file viewer to use
> the 
> up/down arrow keys from the keyboard. (the handle_key()
> function in
> deskapps3.c)
> 
> 
> 
> I also used John's
> FreeGEM AES 3.00
> alpha.  Here I only changed for value of NM-FILES in
> gemlib.h so that
> the file selection window would show the complete content
> of my
> directories. (Sometimes I like to use John's AES 3.00
> stable version
> as the window zooming is different).
> 
> 
> 
> The appearance and such I
> changed to my linking using settings.app and these are
> saved in the
> gem.cfg file.
> 
> 
> 
> I also used the FreeGEM 3.00
> VDI/GDOS
> (Eathan Clark's modification of ViewMax/3 code). 
> However, I stripped
> out the bezier routines (just couldn't get the
> communication working
> with my limited skills) and the use of the use of a
> gemsys.cfg file. 
> Thus it's back to the GEM3 code but compiles fine with
> jwasmd.exe or
> the like and is smaller.
> 
> 
> 
> I used Heinz Rath's SVG
> screen driver but
> recompiled to VGA resolution using jwasmd.exe (I like the
> VGA screen
> for GEM which I think is easy on the eyes).
> 
> 
> 
> Lastly, the OUTPUT.APP was
> something a
> mindless experiment (please note I'm not a programmer
> and hobbies can
> be illogical) as I disassembled the obj and lib files to
> recompile
> with jwasmd.  
> 
> 
> 
> Sorry for the long
> reply.? I will say, in the end, the package does what I
> like and provides me with some fun.
> 
> 
> 
> --David
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Tue, 8/18/09, Thomas Clayton
> <topcatdrc at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> From: Thomas Clayton <topcatdrc at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [GEM Development] some updates
> To: "GEM Development"
> <gem-dev at simpits.org>
> Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 12:45 AM
> 
> David,
> 
> What version(s) of FreeGEM was (were) used in those
> projects?
> 
> I'm trying to determine it from window parts but I
> don't recognize any "landmarks". Neat
> "stuff", BTW.
> 
> Merci beaucoup!
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Thomas Clayton
> 
> --- On Mon, 8/17/09, david johnson <zaojashin at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > From: david johnson <zaojashin at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: [GEM Development] some updates
> > To: gem-dev at simpits.org
> > Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 12:28 AM
> > Greetings:
> > 
> > I made some update to my FreeGEM hobby project.
> > A mostly personal project but some on the list my find
> it
> > amusing.  The files are at 
> > 
> >    
> > http://www.geocities.com/zaojashin/freegem.html
> > 
> > if you care to look (there are some screenshots).
> > 
> > Notes these will be up until 10/26/09 at which time
> > geocites will close.
> > 
> > Thanks for the help (posted here and on the
> individual
> > websites)
> > by the folks on this mailing list.
> > 
> > Take care,
> > 
> >
>  David Johnson
> 
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From owen at owenrudge.net  Thu Aug 20 11:14:48 2009
From: owen at owenrudge.net (Owen Rudge)
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:14:48 +0100
Subject: [GEM Development] some updates
In-Reply-To: <20090817180537.06D0A328003@ns2.simpits.org>
References: <20090817180537.06D0A328003@ns2.simpits.org>
Message-ID: <4A8D9298.2040000@owenrudge.net>

> But it's sad that your very individual effort is the only that (apparently)
> still survives in GEM development, documentation or... anything. I'm
> especially disappointed about the GEM wiki, which after months of waiting is
> still unusable. I don't know if Owen is still reading this and what are the
> real possibilities of the wiki being fixed (including being made the primary
> wiki), but I would like to know... once more I offer myself to help remotely
> with the fixing, or even to put up a new wiki in a server in our University,
> if it's the best option.

My wiki will stay up, no worries about that. I cannot honestly remember 
at the moment what needed doing to fix it though - I seemed to recall I 
needed to speak to Rob about it for some reason, but I simply haven't 
had time to do anything with it recently. Sorry about that. At the 
moment, I can't say when I will look at it. Maybe next week if I find 
the time... things are (as usual) rather busy.


-- 
Owen Rudge
http://www.owenrudge.net/

From owen at owenrudge.net  Thu Aug 20 11:15:28 2009
From: owen at owenrudge.net (Owen Rudge)
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:15:28 +0100
Subject: [GEM Development] some updates
In-Reply-To: <934467.74813.qm@web58608.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
References: <934467.74813.qm@web58608.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4A8D92C0.3010304@owenrudge.net>

> Notes these will be up until 10/26/09 at which time geocites will close.

If you require some more reliable hosting for this, send me a private 
e-mail, and I can provide some.

Cheers,

-- 
Owen Rudge
http://www.owenrudge.net/

From topcatdrc at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 21 15:36:39 2009
From: topcatdrc at yahoo.com (Thomas Clayton)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 15:36:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GEM Development] HP 200LX Palmtop Computer
Message-ID: <886160.68409.qm@web82303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Dear Group:

At

http://nm7u. tripod.com/ homepage/ sale.html

you can find an
HP 200LX Palmtop Computer
for sale.

I BELIEVE some of you have said these CAN run DR-GEM.

>From the ad'.
"
FEEL FREE TO MAKE AN OFFER
LOCATION IS TIGARD, OREGON 97223
"
Details are as Follows:
"
HP 200LX Palmtop Computer
4MB memory
This is basically an IBM PC
Runs DOS 5
Program it with Quickbasic.
Runs on 2-AA batteries
In excellent condition.
$150
"

Sincerely,

Thomas Clayton