From geneb at deltasoft.com Thu Oct 2 02:47:20 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 02:47:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GEM Development] Todd sent you a friend request on Tagged :) In-Reply-To: <20080930162121.64A443280EA@ns2.simpits.org> References: <20080930162121.64A443280EA@ns2.simpits.org> Message-ID: On Tue, 30 Sep 2008, Todd Bedwell wrote: > If you can't see this email please click here > [imgsrv.php?uid=5405328570&ect=l10xsqn] > Todd Bedwell > Todd Bedwell has added you as a friend > Is Todd your friend? > [btn-Yes-large.gif] [btn-No-large.gif] > Click Yes if Todd is your friend, otherwise click No.But you have to > click! > Please respond or Todd may think you said no :( > Click here to block all emails from Tagged Inc., 110 Pacific Mall Box > #117, San Francisco, CA. 94111 > [pixel.php?ect=l10xsqn&fid=9432a584035e8e94&tId=140031] > Hey Todd, f*ck off. Go spam someone else. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From geneb at deltasoft.com Thu Oct 2 02:54:20 2008 From: geneb at deltasoft.com (Gene Buckle) Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 02:54:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GEM Development] Todd sent you a friend request on Tagged :) In-Reply-To: <20080930162121.64A443280EA@ns2.simpits.org> References: <20080930162121.64A443280EA@ns2.simpits.org> Message-ID: On Tue, 30 Sep 2008, Todd Bedwell wrote: ...little Toddy has been sent packing. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. From joemmore at archivalladolid.org Wed Oct 1 16:58:31 2008 From: joemmore at archivalladolid.org (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Emilio_Mori_Recio?=) Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 01:58:31 +0200 Subject: [GEM Development] Current status and future? and wiki's database lock Message-ID: <20081001235840.BA0DA328046@ns2.simpits.org> Hi again. I'm glad to see all the answers after my message, and the wiki2 back working. Thank you all. So, I'll wait until the end of the year for news on OpenGEM 7 and the update of Shane's site and its documentation and code. Meanwhile, I think a more updated (currently, no updates for more than a year), comprehensive and complete wiki, and an updated and extended FAQ about GEM/OpenGEM/FreeGEM shared by all the GEM sites (at least, the ones whose maintainers are subscribed here; almost all, I hope) could be very useful to get more people involved in the project. I have tried to begin that task, but when trying to create an account at the wiki2, the answer was "the database is currently locked..." because "This is the read-only mirror site; to edit pages, please use the primary mirror on wiki.freegem.net..." but the primary mirror won't work, so I'm stuck there. Anyone can fix that? I have also read and visited the G-GUI project, which is interesting, but I'm afraid it means more splitting of the efforts... I don't think there is "market" for a lot of graphic environments over DOS, and I think GEM should be the one to support because of its history and programs already available. If there isn't much going on in enhancements, as Owen said, I think it would be important to coordinate and join our efforts to get more (or some) results. OK, I know open source means freedom for everyone, but maintaining several compiting graphic environments or GEM distributions/projects would mean confusing people, which would have to read about all of them in order to choose; and they could easily forget about it if they have to spend that extra time, as using (or developing) GEM is usually a hobby, and we all know here that free time for hobbies is rare in these days... Anyway, it's only my thinking, time will tell. I'll keep on watching this list's news. // Jos? Emilio Mori Recio - http://www.gui.uva.es/~jem \\ || Administrador Inform?tico, Arzobispado de Valladolid y Archivo || \\ Miembro 088 del Grupo Universitario de Inform?tica, Valladolid // From topcatdrc at yahoo.com Wed Oct 1 22:23:49 2008 From: topcatdrc at yahoo.com (Thomas Clayton) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:23:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GEM Development] Did the LIST get this REPLY? [WAS: Re: Current status and future? and wiki's database lock] In-Reply-To: <20081001235840.BA0DA328046@ns2.simpits.org> Message-ID: <600476.37271.qm@web82302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I just sent a reply to Jose AND all of you but 'hitting' the REPLY button didn't get gem-dev at simpits.org put into the "To:" line! Hmmm. --- On Wed, 10/1/08, Jos? Emilio Mori Recio wrote: > From: Jos? Emilio Mori Recio > Subject: [GEM Development] Current status and future? and wiki's database lock > To: gem-dev at simpits.org > Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 6:58 PM > Hi again. I'm glad to see all the answers after my > message, and the wiki2 > back working. Thank you all. > > So, I'll wait until the end of the year for news on > OpenGEM 7 and the update > of Shane's site and its documentation and code. > Meanwhile, I think a more > updated (currently, no updates for more than a year), > comprehensive and > complete wiki, and an updated and extended FAQ about > GEM/OpenGEM/FreeGEM > shared by all the GEM sites (at least, the ones whose > maintainers are > subscribed here; almost all, I hope) could be very useful > to get more people > involved in the project. > > I have tried to begin that task, but when trying to create > an account at the > wiki2, the answer was "the database is currently > locked..." because "This is > the read-only mirror site; to edit pages, please use the > primary mirror on > wiki.freegem.net..." but the primary mirror won't > work, so I'm stuck there. > Anyone can fix that? > > I have also read and visited the G-GUI project, which is > interesting, but > I'm afraid it means more splitting of the efforts... I > don't think there is > "market" for a lot of graphic environments over > DOS, and I think GEM should > be the one to support because of its history and programs > already available. > If there isn't much going on in enhancements, as Owen > said, I think it would > be important to coordinate and join our efforts to get more > (or some) > results. OK, I know open source means freedom for everyone, > but maintaining > several compiting graphic environments or GEM > distributions/projects would > mean confusing people, which would have to read about all > of them in order > to choose; and they could easily forget about it if they > have to spend that > extra time, as using (or developing) GEM is usually a > hobby, and we all know > here that free time for hobbies is rare in these days... > > Anyway, it's only my thinking, time will tell. I'll > keep on watching this > list's news. > > // Jos? Emilio Mori Recio - http://www.gui.uva.es/~jem > \\ > || Administrador Inform?tico, Arzobispado de Valladolid y > Archivo || > \\ Miembro 088 del Grupo Universitario de > Inform?tica, Valladolid // > > > _______________________________________________ > gem-dev mailing list > gem-dev at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/gem-dev From rob at midworld.co.uk Thu Oct 2 01:32:16 2008 From: rob at midworld.co.uk (rob at midworld.co.uk) Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 09:32:16 +0100 Subject: [GEM Development] Current status and future? and wiki's database lock In-Reply-To: <20081001235840.BA0DA328046@ns2.simpits.org> References: <20081001235840.BA0DA328046@ns2.simpits.org> Message-ID: <20081002083216.GB25032@meurglys.midworld.co.uk> On Thu, Oct 02, 2008 at 01:58:31AM +0200, Jos? Emilio Mori Recio wrote: > Hi again. I'm glad to see all the answers after my message, and the > wiki2 > back working. Thank you all. > > So, I'll wait until the end of the year for news on OpenGEM 7 and the > update > of Shane's site and its documentation and code. Meanwhile, I think a > more > updated (currently, no updates for more than a year), comprehensive > and > complete wiki, and an updated and extended FAQ about > GEM/OpenGEM/FreeGEM > shared by all the GEM sites (at least, the ones whose maintainers are > subscribed here; almost all, I hope) could be very useful to get more > people > involved in the project. Hi, The problem on my side is that work is eating me alive and I've had no time to do any programming-for-fun in about six months :(. I'd love at some point to have time to finish my experimental freeGEM distro which I had in development (on my Acorn RISC PC, no less!). It had some package management including for drivers, and had metapackages to extract the AES and VDI from other GEM-based applications. Which were fun and led to some interesting crashes... > I have tried to begin that task, but when trying to create an account at the > wiki2, the answer was "the database is currently locked..." because "This is > the read-only mirror site; to edit pages, please use the primary mirror on > wiki.freegem.net..." but the primary mirror won't work, so I'm stuck there. > Anyone can fix that? The fact that the primary wiki is down is my fault. It had a bad case of 'hard disc turning into swiss cheese'. I also started restoring it and lost my details for the mirror again. :-( so basically I fail on a large number of levels and need to get Owen to send me my login details again, which he is probably quite fed up with. I am more than happy to fix this if it'll be used, it's just a matter of girding my loins and not getting side-tracked or confused. Anyone up for bullying me into it? :-p > I have also read and visited the G-GUI project, which is interesting, but > I'm afraid it means more splitting of the efforts... I don't think there is > "market" for a lot of graphic environments over DOS, and I think GEM should > be the one to support because of its history and programs already available. > If there isn't much going on in enhancements, as Owen said, I think it would > be important to coordinate and join our efforts to get more (or some) > results. OK, I know open source means freedom for everyone, but maintaining > several compiting graphic environments or GEM distributions/projects would > mean confusing people, which would have to read about all of them in order > to choose; and they could easily forget about it if they have to spend that > extra time, as using (or developing) GEM is usually a hobby, and we all know > here that free time for hobbies is rare in these days... > > Anyway, it's only my thinking, time will tell. I'll keep on watching this > list's news. Take care, Rob > > // Jos? Emilio Mori Recio - http://www.gui.uva.es/~jem \\ > || Administrador Inform?tico, Arzobispado de Valladolid y Archivo || > \\ Miembro 088 del Grupo Universitario de Inform?tica, Valladolid // > > > _______________________________________________ > gem-dev mailing list > gem-dev at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/gem-dev From topcatdrc at yahoo.com Fri Oct 3 06:23:48 2008 From: topcatdrc at yahoo.com (Thomas Clayton) Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 06:23:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GEM Development] Did the LIST get this REPLY? [WAS: Re: Current status and future? and wiki's database lock] In-Reply-To: <600476.37271.qm@web82302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <611678.39633.qm@web82307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I spoke too soon! ... but my "Sent-box" copy did have Jose's address in the "TO:" line NOT the list-server's. Oh well, it worked and that's what matters. Embarrassed, Thomas Clayton --- On Thu, 10/2/08, Thomas Clayton wrote: > From: Thomas Clayton > Subject: [GEM Development] Did the LIST get this REPLY? [WAS: Re: Current status and future? and wiki's database lock] > To: gem-dev at simpits.org, jem at archivalladolid.org > Date: Thursday, October 2, 2008, 12:23 AM > I just sent a reply to Jose AND all of you > but 'hitting' the REPLY button didn't get > gem-dev at simpits.org > put into the "To:" line! Hmmm. > > > > --- On Wed, 10/1/08, Jos? Emilio Mori Recio > wrote: > > > From: Jos? Emilio Mori Recio > > > Subject: [GEM Development] Current status and future? > and wiki's database lock > > To: gem-dev at simpits.org > > Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 6:58 PM > > Hi again. I'm glad to see all the answers after my > > message, and the wiki2 > > back working. Thank you all. > > > > So, I'll wait until the end of the year for news > on > > OpenGEM 7 and the update > > of Shane's site and its documentation and code. > > Meanwhile, I think a more > > updated (currently, no updates for more than a year), > > comprehensive and > > complete wiki, and an updated and extended FAQ about > > GEM/OpenGEM/FreeGEM > > shared by all the GEM sites (at least, the ones whose > > maintainers are > > subscribed here; almost all, I hope) could be very > useful > > to get more people > > involved in the project. > > > > I have tried to begin that task, but when trying to > create > > an account at the > > wiki2, the answer was "the database is currently > > locked..." because "This is > > the read-only mirror site; to edit pages, please use > the > > primary mirror on > > wiki.freegem.net..." but the primary mirror > won't > > work, so I'm stuck there. > > Anyone can fix that? > > > > I have also read and visited the G-GUI project, which > is > > interesting, but > > I'm afraid it means more splitting of the > efforts... I > > don't think there is > > "market" for a lot of graphic environments > over > > DOS, and I think GEM should > > be the one to support because of its history and > programs > > already available. > > If there isn't much going on in enhancements, as > Owen > > said, I think it would > > be important to coordinate and join our efforts to get > more > > (or some) > > results. OK, I know open source means freedom for > everyone, > > but maintaining > > several compiting graphic environments or GEM > > distributions/projects would > > mean confusing people, which would have to read about > all > > of them in order > > to choose; and they could easily forget about it if > they > > have to spend that > > extra time, as using (or developing) GEM is usually a > > hobby, and we all know > > here that free time for hobbies is rare in these > days... > > > > Anyway, it's only my thinking, time will tell. > I'll > > keep on watching this > > list's news. > > > > // Jos? Emilio Mori Recio - > http://www.gui.uva.es/~jem > > \\ > > || Administrador Inform?tico, Arzobispado de > Valladolid y > > Archivo || > > \\ Miembro 088 del Grupo Universitario de > > Inform?tica, Valladolid // > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > gem-dev mailing list > > gem-dev at simpits.org > > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/gem-dev > _______________________________________________ > gem-dev mailing list > gem-dev at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/gem-dev From topcatdrc at yahoo.com Mon Oct 6 07:54:06 2008 From: topcatdrc at yahoo.com (Thomas Clayton) Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 07:54:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GEM Development] EGA Cards + 9-Pin (EGA?) Monitor Message-ID: <383729.3869.qm@web82303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dear Developers: While rummaging through pulled cards at my friends recyclery, I found some EGA cards. I 'yanked' three that are the same and one other that didn't have a matching one. (They all seem to have 256KB RAM on them. I've left the switches where they were set.) I tell you this, just in case someone needs one. Now if I only had a monitor to test them with ... . (I hadn't looked for one when I was there, Friday.) On Saturday, the TI99ers were having their (our?) monthly meeting. One guy had gone to Germany where the European 99er Fest was being held and would be reporting back over the I'net. I remembered the meeting going to take place and asked the guy who drives in from the Far West suburbs (Elgin, IL) to one on the lake (Evanston, IL where the meeting is held) IF he still had any EGA monitors 'in his garage'? (I had given him one or two years ago.) "Yes," he said. He was sure he had one but wasn't sure he'd be able to get to it and deliver it. Well, we missed meeting at Noon (on his West to East leg) but, on the Westerly return leg at 5PM, we did meet. He had along with him a dusty monitor with a 9-pin connector. He also said that he thought he had another 'in the attic, somewhere'. Examining the one he gave me I noticed it had a "TTL, Ana." switch on the back. John - or anyone else - Did you have need of one of these to test a video card? I will "test" it for basic (EGA) working this week. One other thing, IF ANY of you want to attend a 99er fest, The Chicago T.I.99 2008 Annual World Faire will be held October 25th from Noon till 4 or 5 at the Evanston Public Library (this year). If it is like recent years, there should be 20 -30 people there and we'll have a dinner and awards ceremony afterwards. Sincerely, Thomas Clayton who never has gotten GEM to run on it but knows better than to try that, now. (64K RAM max.) From zaojashin at yahoo.com Mon Oct 6 17:44:07 2008 From: zaojashin at yahoo.com (david johnson) Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 17:44:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GEM Development] EGA Cards + 9-Pin (EGA?) Monitor In-Reply-To: <383729.3869.qm@web82303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <430366.21337.qm@web58607.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Thomas, ? Enjoyed the mention of the Ti-99, the first computer I ever used. I recall using extended basic to program a small program to play fiddle sheet music because it could play the double stops I needed to hear. Is there a related website for the Chicago group? ? Thanks. ? David Johnson --- On Mon, 10/6/08, Thomas Clayton wrote: From: Thomas Clayton Subject: [GEM Development] EGA Cards + 9-Pin (EGA?) Monitor To: gem-dev at simpits.org Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 10:54 AM Dear Developers: While rummaging through pulled cards at my friends recyclery, I found some EGA cards. I 'yanked' three that are the same and one other that didn't have a matching one. (They all seem to have 256KB RAM on them. I've left the switches where they were set.) I tell you this, just in case someone needs one. Now if I only had a monitor to test them with ... . (I hadn't looked for one when I was there, Friday.) On Saturday, the TI99ers were having their (our?) monthly meeting. One guy had gone to Germany where the European 99er Fest was being held and would be reporting back over the I'net. I remembered the meeting going to take place and asked the guy who drives in from the Far West suburbs (Elgin, IL) to one on the lake (Evanston, IL where the meeting is held) IF he still had any EGA monitors 'in his garage'? (I had given him one or two years ago.) "Yes," he said. He was sure he had one but wasn't sure he'd be able to get to it and deliver it. Well, we missed meeting at Noon (on his West to East leg) but, on the Westerly return leg at 5PM, we did meet. He had along with him a dusty monitor with a 9-pin connector. He also said that he thought he had another 'in the attic, somewhere'. Examining the one he gave me I noticed it had a "TTL, Ana." switch on the back. John - or anyone else - Did you have need of one of these to test a video card? I will "test" it for basic (EGA) working this week. One other thing, IF ANY of you want to attend a 99er fest, The Chicago T.I.99 2008 Annual World Faire will be held October 25th from Noon till 4 or 5 at the Evanston Public Library (this year). If it is like recent years, there should be 20 -30 people there and we'll have a dinner and awards ceremony afterwards. Sincerely, Thomas Clayton who never has gotten GEM to run on it but knows better than to try that, now. (64K RAM max.) _______________________________________________ gem-dev mailing list gem-dev at simpits.org http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/gem-dev -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/gem-dev/attachments/20081006/d2d04a1c/attachment.html From joemmore at archivalladolid.org Tue Oct 7 06:27:00 2008 From: joemmore at archivalladolid.org (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Emilio_Mori_Recio?=) Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 15:27:00 +0200 Subject: [GEM Development] Thomas' message and Wiki Message-ID: <20081007132713.996233280E9@ns2.simpits.org> Hi again. First of all, Thomas' answer to my message about the wiki and G-GUI finally didn't get to the list, so I copy it here: ***** > I have also read and visited the G-GUI project, which is interesting, but > I'm afraid it means more splitting of the efforts... I don't think there is > "market" for a lot of graphic environments over DOS, and I think GEM should > be the one to support because of its history and programs already available. I agree. GEM not G-GUI. Two points about the G-GUI. i) I'm not sure IF Georg Pothast had "heard of" GEM before now. It would be GOOD to have him to join US. (I've written a letter for his 'G-GUI Forum' informing him and any lookers that GEM exists.) ii) WE might learn some things FROM his efforts (his code, too?) that would be useful / beneficial for GEM. Sincerely, Thomas Clayton ***** I fully agree with i) and ii). In fact, the G-GUI project seems to be stopped and maybe ended, as its forum has no new messages since Feb. 2007 (except for Thomas' one) and it doesn't appear among the FreeDOS GUI's, even after it was suggested in its forum in 2007. And back to GEM... Thank you, Rob, for your answer about the primary wiki. As you asked, I confirm I'm interested in using and updating it right now, a little work each week, as it's an easy task which doesn't need bigger "time slots" as the rest of "GEM tasks" which I plan for 2009. If I can help you on-line in the fixing process, just let me know (I've just set up another MediaWiki wiki in our University site). And, if things get difficult, just wondering, should it be a problem to make the secondary wiki the primary one to use and update? Anyway, thank you in advance for your efforts. Looking forward to your answers... // Jos? Emilio Mori Recio - http://www.gui.uva.es/~jem \\ || Administrador Inform?tico, Arzobispado de Valladolid y Archivo || \\ Miembro 088 del Grupo Universitario de Inform?tica, Valladolid // From mailbox at georgpotthast.de Fri Oct 10 14:33:28 2008 From: mailbox at georgpotthast.de (Georg Potthast) Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 23:33:28 +0200 Subject: [GEM Development] G-GUI Message-ID: <000e01c92b1f$d778f9a0$cb00a8c0@win2000gp> Thomas Clayton mentioned my G-GUI in this list. G-GUI is written in Turbo Assembler. However, to generate the Turbo Assembler Code I used BASM from Kevin Diggins, a Basic to Assembler converter which can be found here: http://www.bcxgurus.com/basm286.zip The objective of G-GUI is to provide a TSR for DOS which provides GUI functions for all programs loaded. The interface is interrupt based just like the DOS functions and thus can be used with any DOS programming language. My impression is that currently there are no new graphical applications developed for DOS any more, so G-GUI is not used much. Georg -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/gem-dev/attachments/20081010/cbd5e9b2/attachment.html From topcatdrc at yahoo.com Fri Oct 10 19:53:02 2008 From: topcatdrc at yahoo.com (Thomas Clayton) Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 19:53:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GEM Development] G-GUI In-Reply-To: <000e01c92b1f$d778f9a0$cb00a8c0@win2000gp> Message-ID: <929219.80075.qm@web82305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dear Georg: (Note: no "e" at the end! :-) ) > interface is interrupt based just like the DOS functions GEM, also, is interrupt-based utilizing Software IRQ 67 (?) (I /may be/ mis-remembering the precise number. This one could be the exPanded Memory Specification IRQ but GEM DOES use one.) > provides GUI functions for all programs loaded. While GEM does this, it does REQUIRE (currently!) LOTs (a great quantity) of RAM to do it. Also, GEM includes a limited multi-THREADING "kernel". (ONLY a single 'app' can run BUT several 'threads' MUST be able to run together e.g. mouse, Kbd, desktop util.s, window update.) I think WE (GEM-DEV.ers) should take a GOOD look at your G-GUI and you should take a 'peek' at GEM - and its many App.s (all free!). (I say 'peek', as in a glance, not necessarily a deep look. You've got that WONDERFUL DOS USB driver 'suite' to work on! ) BTW, Did you attempt to attach something to your letter, that the list-server STRIPPED off? (see below) Sincerely, Thomas Clayton --- On Fri, 10/10/08, Georg Potthast wrote: > From: Georg Potthast > Subject: [GEM Development] G-GUI > To: gem-dev at simpits.org > Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 4:33 PM > Thomas Clayton mentioned my G-GUI in this list. G-GUI is > written in Turbo Assembler. However, to generate the Turbo > Assembler Code I used BASM from Kevin Diggins, a Basic to > Assembler converter which can be found here: > http://www.bcxgurus.com/basm286.zip > > The objective of G-GUI is to provide a TSR for DOS which > provides GUI functions for all programs loaded. The > interface is interrupt based just like the DOS functions and > thus can be used with any DOS programming language. > > My impression is that currently there are no new graphical > applications developed for DOS any more, so G-GUI is not > used much. > > Georg -----Inline Attachment Follows----- >_______________________________________________ > gem-dev mailing list > gem-dev at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/gem-dev From mailbox at georgpotthast.de Sat Oct 11 01:13:06 2008 From: mailbox at georgpotthast.de (Georg Potthast) Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 10:13:06 +0200 Subject: [GEM Development] G-GUI Message-ID: <001901c92b79$32c44310$cb00a8c0@win2000gp> Dear Thomas, I am currently working on a new release for DOSUSB. As you can see from the number of entries in the forums there is a much greater interest in DOSUSB compared to G-GUI. So I have not worked on G-GUI for some time. However, GUI programming allows you to work with colors and images while with DOSUSB you may work for a week just to get the USB controller to finally set a bit in a register. Since there are no new applications developed for DOS any more I think maybe one could use a cross-platform approach to provide a graphical environment to develop applications that work with Windows, Linux, and DOS. So the new application would not be limited to DOS. One could also convert existing DOS applications this way to Windows and Linux by adding a new user interface to them. Or convert simple Windows applications to work with Linux and DOS too. The HXDOS extender allows to run SDL and OpenGL on DOS. I also found a GUI based on SDL called AGAR which I got to run with HXDOS and SDL. So SDL and AGAR provide a cross-platform GUI for Windows and Linux which will run with DOS too using HXDOS. Of course you have to limit the functions the new application uses to the subset that is offered by all three OS's. Here are the links: http://www.libsdl.org/ http://libagar.org/ (ugly screenshots but you can select any color or theme as a developer) http://www.japheth.de/HX.html I intend to look into this concept when the next version of DOSUSB is released. Georg -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.simpits.org/pipermail/gem-dev/attachments/20081011/35ec8af9/attachment.html From jce at seasip.demon.co.uk Sun Oct 19 07:39:15 2008 From: jce at seasip.demon.co.uk (John Elliott) Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 15:39:15 +0100 (BST) Subject: [GEM Development] Source for Old Video Cards In-Reply-To: from "John Elliott" at Sep 16, 2008 11:15:09 Message-ID: > It occurs to me that rather than trying to find physical hardware for all > of these, it'd be simpler to hack support for the appropriate video modes > into a PC emulator. So far, so good. I've now got a patched PCE that can emulate Plantronics and Wyse hardware with reasonable fidelity. You can find the patch at . -- John Elliott From bchang at artic.edu Tue Oct 28 23:06:53 2008 From: bchang at artic.edu (ben chang) Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 01:06:53 -0500 Subject: [GEM Development] Linux, video1394, pix_video question Message-ID: <1225260413.4907fd7dd88ae@webmail.artic.edu> Hi, I'm trying to use a firewire capture box (the excitingly named Hollywood Dazzle) with pix_video. The device works with Kino, so that's promising. But pix_video just gives me a white screen, and I get this error: "get capabilities: Invalid argument" in general, should this work? I read some older posts on this list about firewire capture on linux, but I couldn't get a sense of how solved it is ... plus that's such a moving target in the kernel anyway! I'm using pd extended 0.40.3 on ubuntu 8.04. thanks, --Ben From topcatdrc at yahoo.com Wed Oct 29 08:40:14 2008 From: topcatdrc at yahoo.com (Thomas Clayton) Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 08:40:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GEM Development] Linux, video1394, pix_video question In-Reply-To: <1225260413.4907fd7dd88ae@webmail.artic.edu> Message-ID: <375796.41752.qm@web82308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Ben, Someone, a while back, mistakenly sent a message to THIS list that should have gone to a Linux list. Ever since then, every once-in-a-while, we get a letter from someone who has Googled(?) their subject and found us in that result list. We are a list about DR-GEM - a 16-bit real-mode graphical operating environment that runs over (on top of) DOS. You're off-subject for here. Sincerely, Thomas Clayton --- On Wed, 10/29/08, ben chang wrote: > From: ben chang > Subject: [GEM Development] Linux, video1394, pix_video question > To: gem-dev at simpits.org > Date: Wednesday, October 29, 2008, 1:06 AM > Hi, > > I'm trying to use a firewire capture box (the > excitingly named Hollywood Dazzle) > with pix_video. The device works with Kino, so that's > promising. But pix_video > just gives me a white screen, and I get this error: > > "get capabilities: Invalid argument" > > in general, should this work? I read some older posts on > this list about > firewire capture on linux, but I couldn't get a sense > of how solved it is ... > plus that's such a moving target in the kernel anyway! > > I'm using pd extended 0.40.3 on ubuntu 8.04. > > thanks, > > --Ben > > _______________________________________________ > gem-dev mailing list > gem-dev at simpits.org > http://www.simpits.org/mailman/listinfo/gem-dev