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	<title>[simpits-tech] need displays...</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[This is a long shot, but can someone point me to a reasonably priced <br />
source for KW-104S 7 segment incandescent displays?  I need 8 of them and <br />
a decimal point display as well.<br />
<br />
tnx!<br />
<br />
g.<br />
<br />
<br />
-- <br />
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	<dc:creator>Gene Buckle</dc:creator>
	<dc:date>2012-04-10T01:26:52-00:00</dc:date>
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	<title>Re: [simpits-tech] need displays...</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[Gene, send me a picture of these.  I believe I have some like that but not sure <br />
if they are the exact type/size you are looking for.  They are sitting in my <br />
parts drawer and you are welcome to them if they will work for you.  I won't <br />
ever use them.<br />
<br />
I'm at work right now so will have to wait to check on the part number for <br />
another couple hours before I get home.<br />
<br />
Jay<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
________________________________<br />
From: Gene Buckle &lt;<a href="mailto:geneb&#64;deltasoft.com" target="_blank">geneb&#64;deltasoft.com</a>&gt;<br />
To: <a href="mailto:simpits-tech&#64;simpits.org" target="_blank">simpits-tech&#64;simpits.org</a><br />
Sent: Mon, April 9, 2012 8:26:52 PM<br />
Subject: &#91;simpits-tech&#93; need displays...<br />
<br />
This is a long shot, but can someone point me to a reasonably priced <br />
source for KW-104S 7 segment incandescent displays?  I need 8 of them and <br />
a decimal point display as well.<br />
<br />
tnx!<br />
<br />
g.<br />
<br />
<br />
-- <br />
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007<br />
<a href="http://www.f15sim.com" target="_blank">http://www.f15sim.com</a> - The only one of its kind.<br />
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	<dc:creator>Joseph Fagner</dc:creator>
	<dc:date>2012-04-10T01:31:57-00:00</dc:date>
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	<title>Re: [simpits-tech] need displays...</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[On Mon, 9 Apr 2012, Joseph Fagner wrote:<br />
<br />
&gt; Gene, send me a picture of these.  I believe I have some like that but not sure<br />
&gt; if they are the exact type/size you are looking for.  They are sitting in my<br />
&gt; parts drawer and you are welcome to them if they will work for you.  I won't<br />
&gt; ever use them.<br />
&gt;<br />
Awesome Jay, thanks!<br />
<br />
Here's what the display assembly looks like<br />
<a href="http://www.geneb.org/images/7seg-disp1.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.geneb.org/images/7seg-disp1.jpg</a><br />
<a href="http://www.geneb.org/images/7seg-disp2.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.geneb.org/images/7seg-disp2.jpg</a><br />
<a href="http://www.geneb.org/images/7seg-disp3.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.geneb.org/images/7seg-disp3.jpg</a><br />
<br />
The way it's wired requires 9 7seg to bcd chips.<br />
<br />
It appears they way they built it was to glue in the pcb, then mount all <br />
the displays and then finally the 64 pin connector.  I'd like to be able <br />
to use a single Maxim 7 segment driver chip with them, but I suspect it <br />
would take a week of work just to recover the parts from the board. :)<br />
<br />
The displays are about .300&quot; high.<br />
<br />
g.<br />
<br />
<br />
-- <br />
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007<br />
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A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.<br />
<a href="http://www.scarletdme.org" target="_blank">http://www.scarletdme.org</a> - Get it _today_!<br />
<br />
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	<dc:creator>Gene Buckle</dc:creator>
	<dc:date>2012-04-10T01:50:48-00:00</dc:date>
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	<title>Re: [simpits-tech] need displays...</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[So you just need the filament type 7 segs not that entire assembly, correct?<br />
<br />
I know I have that type of 7 seg at home.  Just don't recall how many and what <br />
size they are but I'll be home in a little over an hour and I'll take a peak.<br />
<br />
Jay<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
________________________________<br />
From: Gene Buckle &lt;<a href="mailto:geneb&#64;deltasoft.com" target="_blank">geneb&#64;deltasoft.com</a>&gt;<br />
To: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List &lt;<a href="mailto:simpits-tech&#64;simpits.org" target="_blank">simpits-tech&#64;simpits.org</a>&gt;<br />
Sent: Mon, April 9, 2012 8:50:48 PM<br />
Subject: Re: &#91;simpits-tech&#93; need displays...<br />
<br />
On Mon, 9 Apr 2012, Joseph Fagner wrote:<br />
<br />
&gt; Gene, send me a picture of these.  I believe I have some like that but not <br />
sure<br />
&gt; if they are the exact type/size you are looking for.  They are sitting in my<br />
&gt; parts drawer and you are welcome to them if they will work for you.  I won't<br />
&gt; ever use them.<br />
&gt;<br />
Awesome Jay, thanks!<br />
<br />
Here's what the display assembly looks like<br />
<a href="http://www.geneb.org/images/7seg-disp1.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.geneb.org/images/7seg-disp1.jpg</a><br />
<a href="http://www.geneb.org/images/7seg-disp2.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.geneb.org/images/7seg-disp2.jpg</a><br />
<a href="http://www.geneb.org/images/7seg-disp3.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.geneb.org/images/7seg-disp3.jpg</a><br />
<br />
The way it's wired requires 9 7seg to bcd chips.<br />
<br />
It appears they way they built it was to glue in the pcb, then mount all <br />
the displays and then finally the 64 pin connector.  I'd like to be able <br />
to use a single Maxim 7 segment driver chip with them, but I suspect it <br />
would take a week of work just to recover the parts from the board. :)<br />
<br />
The displays are about .300&quot; high.<br />
<br />
g.<br />
<br />
<br />
-- <br />
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007<br />
<a href="http://www.f15sim.com" target="_blank">http://www.f15sim.com</a> - The only one of its kind.<br />
<a href="http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll" target="_blank">http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll</a> - Go Collimated or Go Home.<br />
Some people collect things for a hobby.  Geeks collect hobbies.<br />
<br />
ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment<br />
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.<br />
<a href="http://www.scarletdme.org" target="_blank">http://www.scarletdme.org</a> - Get it _today_!<br />
<br />
Buying desktop hardware and installing a server OS doesn't make a<br />
server-class system any more than sitting in a puddle makes you a duck.<br />
&#91;Cipher in a.s.r&#93;<br />
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	<dc:creator>Joseph Fagner</dc:creator>
	<dc:date>2012-04-10T02:08:53-00:00</dc:date>
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	<title>Re: [simpits-tech] need displays...</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[Bad news, I looked everywhere but can't find them.  I'll keep looking.<br />
<br />
Jay<br />
<br />
Show me a man who cannot be bothered to do the little things, and I will<br />
show you a man who cannot be trusted to do the big ones.<br />
--Lawrence Bell, Founder Bell Helicopter<br />
-----Original Message-----<br />
From: <a href="mailto:simpits-tech-bounces&#64;simpits.org" target="_blank">simpits-tech-bounces&#64;simpits.org</a><br />
&#91;mailto:<a href="mailto:simpits-tech-bounces&#64;simpits.org" target="_blank">simpits-tech-bounces&#64;simpits.org</a>&#93; On Behalf Of Gene Buckle<br />
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 8:51 PM<br />
To: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List<br />
Subject: Re: &#91;simpits-tech&#93; need displays...<br />
<br />
On Mon, 9 Apr 2012, Joseph Fagner wrote:<br />
<br />
&gt; Gene, send me a picture of these.  I believe I have some like that but <br />
&gt; not sure if they are the exact type/size you are looking for.  They <br />
&gt; are sitting in my parts drawer and you are welcome to them if they <br />
&gt; will work for you.  I won't ever use them.<br />
&gt;<br />
Awesome Jay, thanks!<br />
<br />
Here's what the display assembly looks like<br />
<a href="http://www.geneb.org/images/7seg-disp1.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.geneb.org/images/7seg-disp1.jpg</a><br />
<a href="http://www.geneb.org/images/7seg-disp2.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.geneb.org/images/7seg-disp2.jpg</a><br />
<a href="http://www.geneb.org/images/7seg-disp3.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.geneb.org/images/7seg-disp3.jpg</a><br />
<br />
The way it's wired requires 9 7seg to bcd chips.<br />
<br />
It appears they way they built it was to glue in the pcb, then mount all the<br />
displays and then finally the 64 pin connector.  I'd like to be able to use<br />
a single Maxim 7 segment driver chip with them, but I suspect it would take<br />
a week of work just to recover the parts from the board. :)<br />
<br />
The displays are about .300&quot; high.<br />
<br />
g.<br />
<br />
<br />
--<br />
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007<br />
<a href="http://www.f15sim.com" target="_blank">http://www.f15sim.com</a> - The only one of its kind.<br />
<a href="http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll" target="_blank">http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll</a> - Go Collimated or Go Home.<br />
Some people collect things for a hobby.  Geeks collect hobbies.<br />
<br />
ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database<br />
for the masses, not the classes.<br />
<a href="http://www.scarletdme.org" target="_blank">http://www.scarletdme.org</a> - Get it _today_!<br />
<br />
Buying desktop hardware and installing a server OS doesn't make a<br />
server-class system any more than sitting in a puddle makes you a duck.<br />
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	<dc:creator>Joseph Fagner</dc:creator>
	<dc:date>2012-04-10T04:48:12-00:00</dc:date>
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	<title>Re: [simpits-tech] need displays...</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[On 4/9/2012 8:26 PM, Gene Buckle wrote:<br />
&gt; This is a long shot, but can someone point me to a reasonably priced<br />
&gt; source for KW-104S 7 segment incandescent displays?  I need 8 of them and<br />
&gt; a decimal point display as well.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; tnx!<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; g.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;<br />
-Gene,<br />
I have the following KW-104S, KW-104S-CL-TB, KW-104SDP-TB, KW-104S-AL I <br />
use them in my NAV head<br />
CP-1252/ASN-128 <a href="http://phoenixcomm.wordpress.com/projects/nav-cdu/" target="_blank">http://phoenixcomm.wordpress.com/projects/nav-cdu/</a>  The <br />
104 series runs on 4vdc and 15ma (max) any more and you pop them!! make <br />
sure that when you drive them to use a current limiting resistor in each <br />
segment.. also I was driving them with 74LS family  but I lost some of <br />
them as TTL has a 5v rail.<br />
  they have a .300&quot; character height, x .155(7digit) .200(alpha)... You <br />
used to be able to find them on ebay.. I was lucky and I scored 3 CDU's<br />
the lamps are also called PinLite and they are manufactured by Wamco <br />
Lighting 714-545-5560..<br />
<br />
Basicly Gene they are harder to find then hens teeth..<br />
<br />
Good Luck,<br />
Cris H.<br />
phoenixcomm.wordpress.com<br />
phoenixaerospace.us<br />
flite-tronics.com<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
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	<dc:creator>phoenixcomm</dc:creator>
	<dc:date>2012-04-10T05:54:04-00:00</dc:date>
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	<title>Re: [simpits-tech] need displays...</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[On Mon, 9 Apr 2012, Joseph Fagner wrote:<br />
<br />
&gt; So you just need the filament type 7 segs not that entire assembly, correct?<br />
&gt;<br />
That's correct.  I can machine a new bracket and have a PCB made in order <br />
to wire it the way that I need it.<br />
<br />
Here's a link to the data sheet that has the dimensions &amp; pinouts of the <br />
part. <a href="http://www.datasheetarchive.com/KW-104S-L1-datasheet.html" target="_blank">http://www.datasheetarchive.com/KW-104S-L1-datasheet.html</a><br />
<br />
Thanks!<br />
<br />
g.<br />
<br />
-- <br />
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007<br />
<a href="http://www.f15sim.com" target="_blank">http://www.f15sim.com</a> - The only one of its kind.<br />
<a href="http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll" target="_blank">http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll</a> - Go Collimated or Go Home.<br />
Some people collect things for a hobby.  Geeks collect hobbies.<br />
<br />
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	<dc:creator>Gene Buckle</dc:creator>
	<dc:date>2012-04-10T15:43:11-00:00</dc:date>
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	<title>Re: [simpits-tech] need displays...</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[On Mon, 9 Apr 2012, Joseph Fagner wrote:<br />
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&gt; Bad news, I looked everywhere but can't find them.  I'll keep looking.<br />
&gt;<br />
No problem Jay, thanks for taking the time to look!<br />
<br />
g.<br />
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	<dc:creator>Gene Buckle</dc:creator>
	<dc:date>2012-04-10T15:55:18-00:00</dc:date>
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	<title>Re: [simpits-tech] need displays...</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[On Tue, 10 Apr 2012, Cris Harrison wrote:<br />
<br />
&gt; I have the following KW-104S, KW-104S-CL-TB, KW-104SDP-TB, KW-104S-AL I<br />
&gt; use them in my NAV head<br />
&gt; CP-1252/ASN-128 <a href="http://phoenixcomm.wordpress.com/projects/nav-cdu/" target="_blank">http://phoenixcomm.wordpress.com/projects/nav-cdu/</a>  The<br />
&gt; 104 series runs on 4vdc and 15ma (max) any more and you pop them!! make<br />
&gt; sure that when you drive them to use a current limiting resistor in each<br />
&gt; segment.. also I was driving them with 74LS family  but I lost some of<br />
&gt; them as TTL has a 5v rail.<br />
&gt;  they have a .300&quot; character height, x .155(7digit) .200(alpha)... You<br />
&gt; used to be able to find them on ebay.. I was lucky and I scored 3 CDU's<br />
&gt; the lamps are also called PinLite and they are manufactured by Wamco<br />
&gt; Lighting 714-545-5560..<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Basicly Gene they are harder to find then hens teeth..<br />
&gt;<br />
They're not hard to find, they're hard to *buy*.  Best price I've seen is <br />
$110 *each*.  I've got a full set of working displays that I can use by <br />
essentially duplicating the circuit that the VHF radio uses to drive them <br />
(9 CD4511B bcd to 7seg decoders) but it would be nice if I could just <br />
reconstruct the assembly and use a single Maxim 7 segment driver.  It <br />
would keep the board cost down. (WAAAY down - 9 16 pin chips eat a ton of <br />
real estate)<br />
<br />
g.<br />
<br />
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	<dc:creator>Gene Buckle</dc:creator>
	<dc:date>2012-04-10T16:22:46-00:00</dc:date>
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	<title>Re: [simpits-tech] need displays...</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[On 4/10/2012 11:22 AM, Gene Buckle wrote:<br />
&gt; On Tue, 10 Apr 2012, Cris Harrison wrote:<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt; I have the following KW-104S, KW-104S-CL-TB, KW-104SDP-TB, KW-104S-AL I<br />
&gt;&gt; use them in my NAV head<br />
&gt;&gt; CP-1252/ASN-128 <a href="http://phoenixcomm.wordpress.com/projects/nav-cdu/" target="_blank">http://phoenixcomm.wordpress.com/projects/nav-cdu/</a>  The<br />
&gt;&gt; 104 series runs on 4vdc and 15ma (max) any more and you pop them!! make<br />
&gt;&gt; sure that when you drive them to use a current limiting resistor in each<br />
&gt;&gt; segment.. also I was driving them with 74LS family  but I lost some of<br />
&gt;&gt; them as TTL has a 5v rail.<br />
&gt;&gt;   they have a .300&quot; character height, x .155(7digit) .200(alpha)... You<br />
&gt;&gt; used to be able to find them on ebay.. I was lucky and I scored 3 CDU's<br />
&gt;&gt; the lamps are also called PinLite and they are manufactured by Wamco<br />
&gt;&gt; Lighting 714-545-5560..<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt; Basicly Gene they are harder to find then hens teeth..<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt; They're not hard to find, they're hard to *buy*.  Best price I've seen is<br />
&gt; $110 *each*.  I've got a full set of working displays that I can use by<br />
&gt; essentially duplicating the circuit that the VHF radio uses to drive them<br />
&gt; (9 CD4511B bcd to 7seg decoders) but it would be nice if I could just<br />
&gt; reconstruct the assembly and use a single Maxim 7 segment driver.  It<br />
&gt; would keep the board cost down. (WAAAY down - 9 16 pin chips eat a ton of<br />
&gt; real estate)<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; g.<br />
&gt;<br />
you should look at the MAX6955  (I2C) or MAX6954 (SPI) plus they can <br />
also take care of your keyboard as well. I have played with them.. (you <br />
can get them as samples from maxim) the programing is a pain.. there are <br />
a boat load of config registers.. but there is a white paper.. and a on <br />
line config builder to take the pain away.<br />
I was driving them from an arduino..  for my NAV head.. and talk about <br />
the wire LOL. 4 of the Alphas (16 seg) and 13 more Numeric (7 segs)  =  <br />
155 segments + 17 commons or about 172 wires what a mess.. and no room.<br />
The box was originally used in a sim and had all the pins coming out  <br />
the rear of the unit.<br />
right now Im using a ps2 keyboard encoder (a old keyboard gave up its <br />
guts) it was easier, and it got there first (I hate re-inventing the <br />
wheel), plus its almost a no brainer..<br />
<br />
Cris H.<br />
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	<dc:creator>phoenixcomm</dc:creator>
	<dc:date>2012-04-11T06:03:10-00:00</dc:date>
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