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	<title>[simpits-tech] Whats happenin?</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[Hello all,<br />
I would say newbie here but Ive been hanging around on this list for years 6-7-8 ish dunno. Just watching the digest now and again dont think Ive posted anything since leaving Wichita over 5 years ago. Anyway to come up to speed I used to work on avionics actually avionics test systems. After the aircraft ind crash for a insturment company with a vertical managment structure and a vertical family tree too I think 15 people worked there 12 of them were managers and all related. Ive been working in electronics all my life and that is the only job I truely hated to no end it pained me to get up in the morning. Lastly part time for a sim components company lots of good ideas but never went anywhere, finally ran away and went back to broadcast engineering. Since school I have always been mesmorized by avionics, theres no such thing as cheap avionics some are just better than others. So thats what landed me in the frey not so much flying but creating some cool overengineered toys. Case in point ever seen the backlighting on a real LCD? <br />
Anyway in my absence Ive fallen a bit behind on whats happening. Seems a few companies have come and gone on the interfacing side. To me the PHCC looks promising but not sure of its status. Im a hardware guy that can hack away at pic code but no good when it comes actual software. <br />
On the topic of SW whats the masses using? MS looks to be defunct, Xplane looks promising maybe later if things get to the pont of laying out the $$ for something more, Ive been poking around with flightgear as of late.<br />
My end result is non specific mythical plane based on ??? that way no one can say I did it wrong. <br />
Thanks for letting me bend your ear Ill go back to hiding again :)<br />
Austin<br />
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	<dc:creator>Contrapezist</dc:creator>
	<dc:date>2010-08-25T00:00:46-00:00</dc:date>
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	<description><![CDATA[&gt; On the topic of SW whats the masses using? MS looks to be defunct, <br />
&gt; Xplane looks promising maybe later if things get to the pont of laying <br />
&gt; out the $$ for something more, Ive been poking around with flightgear as<br />
<br />
It looks like Microsoft can't resist the temptation and will be <br />
re-entering the flight simulator market with their new mystery &quot;Flight&quot; <br />
product.<br />
<br />
&gt; of late. My end result is non specific mythical plane based on ??? that <br />
&gt; way no one can say I did it wrong. Thanks for letting me bend your ear <br />
&gt; Ill go back to hiding again :) Austin<br />
<br />
Don't go back to hiding!  We've got far too much of that going on around <br />
here. :)<br />
<br />
Right now I'm chasing a damn weird oddity with my Gazoutta16 board. <br />
Turning channel 8 on activates channels 1-7 as well.  The weird thing is, <br />
my logic probe tells me that only the 8th input on the ULN2803 has gone <br />
high.  The only thing I have left to test is the ribbon cable.  This is <br />
weird because it happens to both the prototype and one of the production <br />
boards.  I've checked it with a multi-meter and there's no errors on the <br />
board.  It's enough to drive me even crazier. :)<br />
<br />
g.<br />
<br />
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	<dc:creator>Gene Buckle</dc:creator>
	<dc:date>2010-08-25T00:31:43-00:00</dc:date>
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	<description><![CDATA[&gt;<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Right now I'm chasing a damn weird oddity with my Gazoutta16 board.<br />
&gt; Turning channel 8 on activates channels 1-7 as well.  The weird thing is,<br />
&gt; my logic probe tells me that only the 8th input on the ULN2803 has gone<br />
&gt; high.  The only thing I have left to test is the ribbon cable.  This is<br />
&gt; weird because it happens to both the prototype and one of the production<br />
&gt; boards.  I've checked it with a multi-meter and there's no errors on the<br />
&gt; board.  It's enough to drive me even crazier. :)<br />
<br />
<br />
Butting in: Did you accidentally connect the flyback diodes pin to the 8th<br />
output? That would behave that way, sort of. Of course, you'd have had to<br />
leave that pin unconnected in the design, or at least not connected to the<br />
power supply positive.<br />
<br />
Just a quick thought...<br />
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	<dc:creator>Per Eriksson</dc:creator>
	<dc:date>2010-08-25T18:28:33-00:00</dc:date>
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	<description><![CDATA[I was going to suggest some strangeness with the clamp diodes, my dealings with the ULNXX IC's they can do some strange things with out pull up/down and unloaded. <br />
<br />
It is a sad day for me. I made what was possibly the last trip to my favorite junkyard (actually the only dig away and load up junkyard round these parts). They started clearing it out several months ago after the old man died, I went to pillage my favorite junk pile today and it was gone. Did latch on to some things Ive been pondering not quite sure if its what I want/need and some other random bits because they may be gone shortly. Seems like all the old junk men are slowly dying off and the junkyards along with them.<br />
Austin<br />
  ----- Original Message ----- <br />
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<br />
<br />
    Right now I'm chasing a damn weird oddity with my Gazoutta16 board.<br />
    Turning channel 8 on activates channels 1-7 as well.  The weird thing is,<br />
    my logic probe tells me that only the 8th input on the ULN2803 has gone<br />
    high.  The only thing I have left to test is the ribbon cable.  This is<br />
    weird because it happens to both the prototype and one of the production<br />
    boards.  I've checked it with a multi-meter and there's no errors on the<br />
    board.  It's enough to drive me even crazier. :)<br />
<br />
<br />
  Butting in: Did you accidentally connect the flyback diodes pin to the 8th output? That would behave that way, sort of. Of course, you'd have had to leave that pin unconnected in the design, or at least not connected to the power supply positive.<br />
<br />
<br />
  Just a quick thought...<br />
<br />
<br />
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	<dc:creator>Contrapezist</dc:creator>
	<dc:date>2010-08-25T22:19:21-00:00</dc:date>
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	<description><![CDATA[On Wed, 25 Aug 2010, Contrapezist wrote:<br />
<br />
&gt; I was going to suggest some strangeness with the clamp diodes, my <br />
&gt; dealings with the ULNXX IC's they can do some strange things with out <br />
&gt; pull up/down and unloaded.<br />
&gt;<br />
While I still haven't checked the cable yet (after flogging my sorry ass <br />
at the gym for an hour every day, I don't have much oomph to do much when <br />
I get home *laughs*) I did check the boards to make sure I wasn't <br />
accidentally shorting the diode common to the 8th output leg.  That came <br />
out ok.<br />
<br />
The test rig is just 16 green LEDs on a bread board with 220ohm resistors <br />
between the LED and the hot side of 5vdc.  The ground feeds into the <br />
uln2803.<br />
<br />
&gt; It is a sad day for me. I made what was possibly the last trip to my <br />
&gt; favorite junkyard (actually the only dig away and load up junkyard round <br />
&gt; these parts). They started clearing it out several months ago after the <br />
&gt; old man died, I went to pillage my favorite junk pile today and it was <br />
&gt; gone. Did latch on to some things Ive been pondering not quite sure if <br />
&gt; its what I want/need and some other random bits because they may be gone <br />
&gt; shortly. Seems like all the old junk men are slowly dying off and the <br />
&gt; junkyards along with them. Austin<br />
<br />
That's too bad.  There's no neat places like that around where I live. <br />
Just stingy scrappers that think their 20 year old computer bits are <br />
dipped in gold.<br />
<br />
g.<br />
<br />
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	<dc:creator>Gene Buckle</dc:creator>
	<dc:date>2010-08-26T01:50:19-00:00</dc:date>
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	<description><![CDATA[&gt; While I still haven't checked the cable yet (after flogging my sorry ass<br />
&gt; at the gym for an hour every day, I don't have much oomph to do much when<br />
&gt; I get home *laughs*)<br />
<br />
OMG! Not you too Gene?<br />
<br />
Have you seen my wife? .....<br />
<br />
:) <br />
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	<dc:creator>Rick Davis</dc:creator>
	<dc:date>2010-08-26T01:55:56-00:00</dc:date>
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	<description><![CDATA[On Wed, 25 Aug 2010, Rick Davis wrote:<br />
<br />
&gt;&gt; While I still haven't checked the cable yet (after flogging my sorry ass<br />
&gt;&gt; at the gym for an hour every day, I don't have much oomph to do much when<br />
&gt;&gt; I get home *laughs*)<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; OMG! Not you too Gene?<br />
&gt;<br />
Yep.  Never in my adult life have I worn t-shirts marked &quot;L&quot;.  I do now. <br />
I've gone from a tight 38&quot; waist to 36.  The last time I wore a 36 was my <br />
early teens.<br />
<br />
I'm down over 70lbs.  I've also been taken off one of the two Diabetes <br />
meds I was on.  I'm hoping to drop the other next month. :)<br />
<br />
&gt; Have you seen my wife? .....<br />
&gt;<br />
Why?  Is she missing? :)<br />
<br />
g.<br />
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	<dc:creator>Gene Buckle</dc:creator>
	<dc:date>2010-08-26T02:09:10-00:00</dc:date>
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	<description><![CDATA[  Adding on to the congrats, Gene!<br />
<br />
Going through pilot training I packed on a bunch of weight, managed to <br />
get a bunch of it off (including the 20lbs I lost in one week of <br />
survival training - yeah that was interesting), finally last year <br />
trained for a 15k run and got myself down to 210, which for my 6'5&quot; <br />
frame is pretty good (my best since early college days). Then after <br />
that.... well lets just say I haven't been nearly as good, I'm back up <br />
to 240 now. :( Took my PFT this morning, worst score I've turned in in a <br />
long time. Need to do somethin!<br />
<br />
So keep up the good work!!<br />
<br />
Brian<br />
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	<dc:creator>Brian Sikkema</dc:creator>
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&gt;&gt; OMG! Not you too Gene?<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt; Yep.  Never in my adult life have I worn t-shirts marked &quot;L&quot;.  I do now.<br />
&gt; I've gone from a tight 38&quot; waist to 36.  The last time I wore a 36 was my<br />
&gt; early teens.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; I'm down over 70lbs.  I've also been taken off one of the two Diabetes<br />
&gt; meds I was on.  I'm hoping to drop the other next month. :)<br />
<br />
That is excellent Gene. I never weighed more than 190 in my life (now about <br />
180), but suffer from the used to be 30&quot; waist and now 34&quot; waist syndrom.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt; Have you seen my wife? .....<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt; Why?  Is she missing? :)<br />
<br />
Went to the gym about 6 months ago. ?<br />
<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; g.<br />
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	<dc:creator>Rick Davis</dc:creator>
	<dc:date>2010-08-26T11:13:21-00:00</dc:date>
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	<description><![CDATA[On Wed, 25 Aug 2010, Gene Buckle wrote:<br />
<br />
&gt; I'm down over 70lbs.  I've also been taken off one of the two Diabetes<br />
&gt; meds I was on.  I'm hoping to drop the other next month. :)<br />
<br />
Wow... some serious congrats there Gene.  That took some serious work !<br />
<br />
<br />
And there's me looking at Krispy Kreme sponsorship ... hmm....<br />
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	<dc:creator>Roy Coates</dc:creator>
	<dc:date>2010-08-26T11:27:24-00:00</dc:date>
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	<description><![CDATA[On Thu, 26 Aug 2010, Roy Coates wrote:<br />
<br />
&gt; On Wed, 25 Aug 2010, Gene Buckle wrote:<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt; I'm down over 70lbs.  I've also been taken off one of the two Diabetes<br />
&gt;&gt; meds I was on.  I'm hoping to drop the other next month. :)<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Wow... some serious congrats there Gene.  That took some serious work !<br />
&gt;<br />
It still is.  Level 20 in Hill mode on a treadmill at 3mph <br />
is....interesting.  Especially when I jog at 4mph each minute in the cycle <br />
where the grade is at 15%.<br />
<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; And there's me looking at Krispy Kreme sponsorship ... hmm....<br />
<br />
Put down the donut and back way from the counter Roy!<br />
<br />
:)<br />
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	<dc:creator>Gene Buckle</dc:creator>
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&gt; I will keep my fingers crossed in your eventual transition from prey to<br />
&gt; predator. :)<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; g.<br />
&gt;<br />
Lol!! Well put. Though truth be told, most days my airplane scares me <br />
more than anyone who may be &quot;hunting&quot; me. We're embarasslingly late in <br />
procuring a new tanker, and structural problems seem like an eventual <br />
certainty in a plane this old. Problem is, we're pretty bad at <br />
predicting such failures (cases in point - A-10 wing cracks, C-130 wing <br />
box, and of course the F-15 longitudinal spar problem). And unlike the <br />
A-10 or the F-15, we don't have fancy rocket seats to save us. In fact <br />
since about 2008 we don't even carry parachutes anymore. I'm just not <br />
particularly interested in still being a tanker pilot when the first one <br />
goes down. I won't say I'm 100% convinced it will happen, I'm just <br />
saying the odds are higher than I'm personally comfortable with. Nobody <br />
has flown an airframe as long as we have the KC-135, and we tread new <br />
ground every day. I just hope the learning curve doesn't get too steep.<br />
<br />
Ah well, off my soapbox for now. :)<br />
<br />
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&gt; I wonder if the drivers have OpenGL or DirectX support...<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; g.<br />
&gt;<br />
<a href="http://www.lilliputweb.net/index.php?Controller=User_Product&amp;action=ShowProduct&amp;product_id=83" target="_blank"> http://www.lilliputweb.net/index.php?Controller=User_Product &amp;action=ShowProduct&amp;product_id=83</a> <br />
<br />
<br />
More info here. Don't see an answer to your question, though. But only <br />
minimal poking around so far.<br />
<br />
It does appear they have an 8&quot; model as well...<br />
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	<dc:date>2010-08-26T14:46:08-00:00</dc:date>
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	<description><![CDATA[  On 08/27/2010 11:38 PM, Ido Dekkers wrote:<br />
&gt; the question is not how old is the platform but how old is the oldest <br />
&gt; actual plane still flying ?<br />
<br />
Oldest tanker I'm aware of is a 1957 model.<br />
<br />
The B-52s are around the same vintage as us, and some C-130s aren't much <br />
younger.<br />
<br />
An interesting fact I read recently in the tanker debate. Right now the <br />
Air Force has over 400 KC-135s still in inventory. In the civilian <br />
world, there are &gt;&gt;&gt;4&lt;&lt;&lt; 707's still in service - ANYWHERE.<br />
<br />
Civilian airlines recapitalize their fleets every 10-15 years, because <br />
it's cheaper in the long run to do it that way. Maintenance costs on old <br />
planes are substantial. DoD procurement, however, isn't up to that task, <br />
unfortunately....<br />
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	<dc:date>2010-08-26T14:53:34-00:00</dc:date>
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	<description><![CDATA[  On 08/28/2010 12:26 AM, Ido Dekkers wrote:<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;     &gt; A-10 or the F-15, we don't have fancy rocket seats to save us.<br />
&gt;     In fact<br />
&gt;     &gt; since about 2008 we don't even carry parachutes anymore. I'm<br />
&gt;     just not<br />
&gt;     I didn't know you guys ever did.  You wouldn't think it would be<br />
&gt;     too hard<br />
&gt;     to put an ACES II or similar in a 707 - there's plenty of room in<br />
&gt;     there.<br />
&gt;     Then again, they're not comfortable at all and you can't have fancy<br />
&gt;     cushions in there unless you enjoy being a parapalegic after the seat<br />
&gt;     cracks your spine after compressing the seat pad.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; i think it's more complicated then that,<br />
&gt; i don't' think ejecting 3? 4? people from the same pit is that easy ?<br />
*shrugs* They get 8 out of the B-52. Some go up, some go down. Nobody <br />
sideways, though. ;)<br />
<br />
Anywho, the real reason is most likely just a cost/benefit analysis. The <br />
tanker was never intended to be in harms way (though it often goes <br />
there, unafraid and unaware ;) so it had no &quot;need&quot; for a system such as <br />
that. Same reason we don't have any sort of countermeasures - though <br />
from what I've seen it looks like the new tanker will have some <br />
SAM/MANPAD protection.<br />
<br />
Anyway, honestly ejection seats on something like a tanker don't really <br />
make sense. Heck the reason they pulled the 'chutes is they had only <br />
been used once - and in that case just the boom jumped, the rest of the <br />
crew stayed in and managed to land the plane. Or so I'm told, anyway - <br />
it's a bit of tanker legend. So there wasn't a real need for them, and <br />
they had a lot of associated costs, training, inspections, etc. So that <br />
all makes sense to me. Keeping a geriatric airplane as the backbone of <br />
the tanker fleet, however.... maybe not so much! lol<br />
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&gt; You would hate to be the guy sitting on the bog when everyone ejected from<br />
&gt; the aircraft.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; &quot;Guy's......Guy's......... pass me another roll&quot;<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Ben<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;<br />
I'm assuming bog is Aussie for toilet. Just a guess, I've learned all my <br />
Aussie from Fosters beer commercials, and they haven't covered that one <br />
yet. ;)<br />
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	<dc:date>2010-08-27T01:16:13-00:00</dc:date>
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	<description><![CDATA[On Thu, 26 Aug 2010, Brian Sikkema wrote:<br />
<br />
&gt;  Adding on to the congrats, Gene!<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Going through pilot training I packed on a bunch of weight, managed to<br />
&gt; get a bunch of it off (including the 20lbs I lost in one week of<br />
&gt; survival training - yeah that was interesting), finally last year<br />
&gt; trained for a 15k run and got myself down to 210, which for my 6'5&quot;<br />
&gt; frame is pretty good (my best since early college days). Then after<br />
&gt; that.... well lets just say I haven't been nearly as good, I'm back up<br />
&gt; to 240 now. :( Took my PFT this morning, worst score I've turned in in a<br />
&gt; long time. Need to do somethin!<br />
&gt;<br />
It's all that time in that cushy seat.  Get a bang seat under ya, that'll <br />
keep the weight off. :)<br />
<br />
&gt; So keep up the good work!!<br />
&gt;<br />
Thanks!<br />
<br />
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	<description><![CDATA[&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt; It's all that time in that cushy seat.  Get a bang seat under ya, that'll<br />
&gt; keep the weight off. :)<br />
<br />
I'm workin on that.... let you know in a couple months. ;)<br />
<br />
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	<description><![CDATA[Came across this a month or so back, kept meaning to post it:<br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/usb-gadgets/c609/" target="_blank">http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/usb-gadgets/c609/</a><br />
<br />
$99, a USB-connected 7&quot; LCD monitor. The cool part is it runs completely<br />
off from USB, so no additional power source or video cable. Basically it<br />
has a self-contained video card on the board itself. So no mucking about<br />
with an extra video out, or trying to convert signals for some screen you<br />
salvaged from something else. Just plug it in!<br />
<br />
There are also some other models with touchscreen capability, albeit for a<br />
bit more ($199-$229):<br />
<a href="http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/usb-gadgets/bfa3/" target="_blank">http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/usb-gadgets/bfa3/</a><br />
<br />
I thought of these again the other night playing Orbiter. There's an addon<br />
to orbiter that allows you to have an &quot;external&quot; MFD, basically a new<br />
window with just the MFD graphics for it. This would be perfect for that,<br />
because you could just move the mfd over to this small, second monitor,<br />
and your primary would be completely unobstructed.<br />
<br />
Food for thought. Now if only they made these w/ a square LCD!<br />
<br />
Brian<br />
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	<description><![CDATA[On Fri, 27 Aug 2010, <a href="mailto:brian&#64;sikkema.us" target="_blank">brian&#64;sikkema.us</a> wrote:<br />
<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt; It's all that time in that cushy seat.  Get a bang seat under ya, that'll<br />
&gt;&gt; keep the weight off. :)<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; I'm workin on that.... let you know in a couple months. ;)<br />
&gt;<br />
<br />
I will keep my fingers crossed in your eventual transition from prey to <br />
predator. :)<br />
<br />
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	<dc:creator>Gene Buckle</dc:creator>
	<dc:date>2010-08-27T14:14:32-00:00</dc:date>
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	<title>Re: [simpits-tech] Fairly cheap little monitor</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[On Fri, 27 Aug 2010, <a href="mailto:brian&#64;sikkema.us" target="_blank">brian&#64;sikkema.us</a> wrote:<br />
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&gt; Came across this a month or so back, kept meaning to post it:<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; <a href="http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/usb-gadgets/c609/" target="_blank">http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/usb-gadgets/c609/</a><br />
<br />
I wonder if the drivers have OpenGL or DirectX support...<br />
<br />
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	<description><![CDATA[the question is not how old is the platform but how old is the oldest actual<br />
plane still flying ?<br />
<br />
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 5:33 PM, Brian Sikkema &lt;<a href="mailto:brian&#64;sikkema.us" target="_blank">brian&#64;sikkema.us</a>&gt; wrote:<br />
<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; &gt; I will keep my fingers crossed in your eventual transition from prey to<br />
&gt; &gt; predator. :)<br />
&gt; &gt;<br />
&gt; &gt; g.<br />
&gt; &gt;<br />
&gt; Lol!! Well put. Though truth be told, most days my airplane scares me<br />
&gt; more than anyone who may be &quot;hunting&quot; me. We're embarasslingly late in<br />
&gt; procuring a new tanker, and structural problems seem like an eventual<br />
&gt; certainty in a plane this old. Problem is, we're pretty bad at<br />
&gt; predicting such failures (cases in point - A-10 wing cracks, C-130 wing<br />
&gt; box, and of course the F-15 longitudinal spar problem). And unlike the<br />
&gt; A-10 or the F-15, we don't have fancy rocket seats to save us. In fact<br />
&gt; since about 2008 we don't even carry parachutes anymore. I'm just not<br />
&gt; particularly interested in still being a tanker pilot when the first one<br />
&gt; goes down. I won't say I'm 100% convinced it will happen, I'm just<br />
&gt; saying the odds are higher than I'm personally comfortable with. Nobody<br />
&gt; has flown an airframe as long as we have the KC-135, and we tread new<br />
&gt; ground every day. I just hope the learning curve doesn't get too steep.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Ah well, off my soapbox for now. :)<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Brian<br />
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	<title>Re: [simpits-tech] Whats happenin?</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[On Thu, 26 Aug 2010, Brian Sikkema wrote:<br />
<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt; I will keep my fingers crossed in your eventual transition from prey to<br />
&gt;&gt; predator. :)<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt; g.<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt; Lol!! Well put. Though truth be told, most days my airplane scares me<br />
&gt; more than anyone who may be &quot;hunting&quot; me. We're embarasslingly late in<br />
&gt; procuring a new tanker, and structural problems seem like an eventual<br />
&gt; certainty in a plane this old. Problem is, we're pretty bad at<br />
&gt; predicting such failures (cases in point - A-10 wing cracks, C-130 wing<br />
&gt; box, and of course the F-15 longitudinal spar problem). And unlike the<br />
<br />
I really, really, really hope they don't discover a problem with the '135 <br />
like they did with the wing box in the '130.  I don't think I'll ever <br />
forget the video of that fire tanker. :(<br />
<br />
&gt; A-10 or the F-15, we don't have fancy rocket seats to save us. In fact<br />
&gt; since about 2008 we don't even carry parachutes anymore. I'm just not<br />
I didn't know you guys ever did.  You wouldn't think it would be too hard <br />
to put an ACES II or similar in a 707 - there's plenty of room in there. <br />
Then again, they're not comfortable at all and you can't have fancy <br />
cushions in there unless you enjoy being a parapalegic after the seat <br />
cracks your spine after compressing the seat pad.<br />
<br />
&gt; particularly interested in still being a tanker pilot when the first one<br />
&gt; goes down. I won't say I'm 100% convinced it will happen, I'm just<br />
&gt; saying the odds are higher than I'm personally comfortable with. Nobody<br />
&gt; has flown an airframe as long as we have the KC-135, and we tread new<br />
&gt; ground every day. I just hope the learning curve doesn't get too steep.<br />
&gt;<br />
You still haven't built the Mercury yet, and you're forbidden from death <br />
until that point so I think you're pretty safe. :D<br />
<br />
g.<br />
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	<dc:creator>Gene Buckle</dc:creator>
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	<title>Re: [simpits-tech] Fairly cheap little monitor</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[On Thu, 26 Aug 2010, Brian Sikkema wrote:<br />
<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt; I wonder if the drivers have OpenGL or DirectX support...<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt; g.<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt; <a href="http://www.lilliputweb.net/index.php?Controller=User_Product&amp;action=ShowProduct&amp;product_id=83" target="_blank"> http://www.lilliputweb.net/index.php?Controller=User_Product &amp;action=ShowProduct&amp;product_id=83</a><br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; More info here. Don't see an answer to your question, though. But only<br />
&gt; minimal poking around so far.<br />
&gt;<br />
<br />
They might be a nice choice for those F-16 MFD button collars that TM is <br />
selling.  AFAIK, they're under $60 a pair from Amazon.<br />
<br />
g.<br />
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	<description><![CDATA[but for some reason the spec of the 8&quot; is missing and i have no idea of<br />
actual size : (<br />
<br />
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 6:11 PM, Gene Buckle &lt;<a href="mailto:geneb&#64;deltasoft.com" target="_blank">geneb&#64;deltasoft.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br />
<br />
&gt; On Thu, 26 Aug 2010, Brian Sikkema wrote:<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; &gt;<br />
&gt; &gt;&gt; I wonder if the drivers have OpenGL or DirectX support...<br />
&gt; &gt;&gt;<br />
&gt; &gt;&gt; g.<br />
&gt; &gt;&gt;<br />
&gt; &gt;<br />
&gt; <a href="http://www.lilliputweb.net/index.php?Controller=User_Product&amp;action=ShowProduct&amp;product_id=83" target="_blank"> http://www.lilliputweb.net/index.php?Controller=User_Product &amp;action=ShowProduct&amp;product_id=83</a><br />
&gt; &gt;<br />
&gt; &gt;<br />
&gt; &gt; More info here. Don't see an answer to your question, though. But only<br />
&gt; &gt; minimal poking around so far.<br />
&gt; &gt;<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; They might be a nice choice for those F-16 MFD button collars that TM is<br />
&gt; selling.  AFAIK, they're under $60 a pair from Amazon.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; g.<br />
&gt;<br />
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	<description><![CDATA[&gt; &gt; A-10 or the F-15, we don't have fancy rocket seats to save us. In fact<br />
&gt; &gt; since about 2008 we don't even carry parachutes anymore. I'm just not<br />
&gt; I didn't know you guys ever did.  You wouldn't think it would be too hard<br />
&gt; to put an ACES II or similar in a 707 - there's plenty of room in there.<br />
&gt; Then again, they're not comfortable at all and you can't have fancy<br />
&gt; cushions in there unless you enjoy being a parapalegic after the seat<br />
&gt; cracks your spine after compressing the seat pad.<br />
&gt;<br />
i think it's more complicated then that,<br />
i don't' think ejecting 3? 4? people from the same pit is that easy ?<br />
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	<description><![CDATA[On Fri, 27 Aug 2010, Ido Dekkers wrote:<br />
<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; A-10 or the F-15, we don't have fancy rocket seats to save us. In fact<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; since about 2008 we don't even carry parachutes anymore. I'm just not<br />
&gt;&gt; I didn't know you guys ever did.  You wouldn't think it would be too hard<br />
&gt;&gt; to put an ACES II or similar in a 707 - there's plenty of room in there.<br />
&gt;&gt; Then again, they're not comfortable at all and you can't have fancy<br />
&gt;&gt; cushions in there unless you enjoy being a parapalegic after the seat<br />
&gt;&gt; cracks your spine after compressing the seat pad.<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt; i think it's more complicated then that,<br />
&gt; i don't' think ejecting 3? 4? people from the same pit is that easy ?<br />
&gt;<br />
They did it for the B-52 and the B-2.<br />
<br />
The B-52 even featured downward ejection tracks for the Navigator and some <br />
other crew stations.<br />
<br />
g.<br />
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<br />
-----Original Message-----<br />
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&#91;mailto:<a href="mailto:simpits-tech-bounces&#64;simpits.org" target="_blank">simpits-tech-bounces&#64;simpits.org</a>&#93; On Behalf Of Gene Buckle<br />
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Subject: Re: &#91;simpits-tech&#93; Whats happenin?<br />
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On Fri, 27 Aug 2010, Ido Dekkers wrote:<br />
<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; A-10 or the F-15, we don't have fancy rocket seats to save us. In fact<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; since about 2008 we don't even carry parachutes anymore. I'm just not<br />
&gt;&gt; I didn't know you guys ever did.  You wouldn't think it would be too hard<br />
&gt;&gt; to put an ACES II or similar in a 707 - there's plenty of room in there.<br />
&gt;&gt; Then again, they're not comfortable at all and you can't have fancy<br />
&gt;&gt; cushions in there unless you enjoy being a parapalegic after the seat<br />
&gt;&gt; cracks your spine after compressing the seat pad.<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt; i think it's more complicated then that,<br />
&gt; i don't' think ejecting 3? 4? people from the same pit is that easy ?<br />
&gt;<br />
They did it for the B-52 and the B-2.<br />
<br />
The B-52 even featured downward ejection tracks for the Navigator and some <br />
other crew stations.<br />
<br />
g.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
You would hate to be the guy sitting on the bog when everyone ejected from<br />
the aircraft.<br />
<br />
&quot;Guy's......Guy's......... pass me another roll&quot;<br />
<br />
Ben<br />
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	<dc:creator>Ben Jones</dc:creator>
	<dc:date>2010-08-27T22:51:40-00:00</dc:date>
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	<title>Re: [simpits-tech] Fairly cheap little monitor</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[Thanks Gene<br />
<br />
This is perfect for my Seattle Avionics moving map and flight planner now I<br />
can<br />
run both separately right in my cockpit and save 24 inches of monitor space.<br />
Anything that is simple and easy I am interested in.<br />
<br />
Regards<br />
<br />
Bill<br />
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On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 7:22 AM, Gene Buckle &lt;<a href="mailto:geneb&#64;deltasoft.com" target="_blank">geneb&#64;deltasoft.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br />
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&gt; On Fri, 27 Aug 2010, <a href="mailto:brian&#64;sikkema.us" target="_blank">brian&#64;sikkema.us</a> wrote:<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; &gt; Came across this a month or so back, kept meaning to post it:<br />
&gt; &gt;<br />
&gt; &gt; <a href="http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/usb-gadgets/c609/" target="_blank">http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/usb-gadgets/c609/</a><br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; I wonder if the drivers have OpenGL or DirectX support...<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; g.<br />
&gt;<br />
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&gt; A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.<br />
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	<title>Re: [simpits-tech] Fairly cheap little monitor</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[On Fri, 27 Aug 2010, William Segal wrote:<br />
<br />
&gt; Thanks Gene<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; This is perfect for my Seattle Avionics moving map and flight planner now I<br />
&gt; can<br />
&gt; run both separately right in my cockpit and save 24 inches of monitor space.<br />
&gt; Anything that is simple and easy I am interested in.<br />
&gt;<br />
<br />
Brian was the one that pointed it out. :)<br />
<br />
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	<title>Re: [simpits-tech] Fairly cheap little monitor</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[Oops! Sorry Brian I just don't see too well  B^<br />
<br />
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 6:54 AM, &lt;<a href="mailto:brian&#64;sikkema.us" target="_blank">brian&#64;sikkema.us</a>&gt; wrote:<br />
<br />
&gt; Came across this a month or so back, kept meaning to post it:<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; <a href="http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/usb-gadgets/c609/" target="_blank">http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/usb-gadgets/c609/</a><br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; $99, a USB-connected 7&quot; LCD monitor. The cool part is it runs completely<br />
&gt; off from USB, so no additional power source or video cable. Basically it<br />
&gt; has a self-contained video card on the board itself. So no mucking about<br />
&gt; with an extra video out, or trying to convert signals for some screen you<br />
&gt; salvaged from something else. Just plug it in!<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; There are also some other models with touchscreen capability, albeit for a<br />
&gt; bit more ($199-$229):<br />
&gt; <a href="http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/usb-gadgets/bfa3/" target="_blank">http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/usb-gadgets/bfa3/</a><br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; I thought of these again the other night playing Orbiter. There's an addon<br />
&gt; to orbiter that allows you to have an &quot;external&quot; MFD, basically a new<br />
&gt; window with just the MFD graphics for it. This would be perfect for that,<br />
&gt; because you could just move the mfd over to this small, second monitor,<br />
&gt; and your primary would be completely unobstructed.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Food for thought. Now if only they made these w/ a square LCD!<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Brian<br />
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	<dc:creator>William Segal</dc:creator>
	<dc:date>2010-08-28T04:49:37-00:00</dc:date>
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	<description><![CDATA[Sorry guy's for being crass i thought bog was a standard aircrew word.<br />
<br />
Yep it's a toilet, and Brian don't believe all of the fosters adds they are<br />
a big pee take, heavens we don't even drink that crap in Oz its export<br />
produce only.<br />
<br />
Ben <br />
<br />
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&gt; You would hate to be the guy sitting on the bog when everyone ejected from<br />
&gt; the aircraft.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; &quot;Guy's......Guy's......... pass me another roll&quot;<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Ben<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;<br />
I'm assuming bog is Aussie for toilet. Just a guess, I've learned all my <br />
Aussie from Fosters beer commercials, and they haven't covered that one <br />
yet. ;)<br />
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	<dc:date>2010-08-28T09:13:07-00:00</dc:date>
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	<description><![CDATA[AFAIK, &quot;bog&quot; is used in England. Also &quot;crapper&quot; is in England<br />
from the name of the inventor. Ozzies call them &quot;dunnies&quot;?<br />
Any other English language words for other countries?<br />
<br />
Jim<br />
<br />
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Sorry guy's for being crass i thought bog was a standard aircrew word.<br />
<br />
Yep it's a toilet, and Brian don't believe all of the fosters adds they are<br />
a big pee take, heavens we don't even drink that crap in Oz its export<br />
produce only.<br />
<br />
Ben <br />
<br />
-----Original Message-----<br />
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&gt; You would hate to be the guy sitting on the bog when everyone ejected from<br />
&gt; the aircraft.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; &quot;Guy's......Guy's......... pass me another roll&quot;<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Ben<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;<br />
I'm assuming bog is Aussie for toilet. Just a guess, I've learned all my <br />
Aussie from Fosters beer commercials, and they haven't covered that one <br />
yet. ;)<br />
<br />
Brian<br />
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	<dc:date>2010-08-28T09:52:05-00:00</dc:date>
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	<description><![CDATA[On Sat, 28 Aug 2010, Ben Jones wrote:<br />
<br />
&gt; Sorry guy's for being crass i thought bog was a standard aircrew word.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Yep it's a toilet, and Brian don't believe all of the fosters adds they are<br />
&gt; a big pee take, heavens we don't even drink that crap in Oz its export<br />
&gt; produce only.<br />
&gt;<br />
<br />
<br />
Bog is also probably the most common slang word in the UK for a toilet.<br />
<br />
I personally prefer &quot;crapper&quot; since it aludes nicely to it's origins.<br />
<br />
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	<title>Re: [simpits-tech] Fairly cheap little monitor</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[&gt; Oops! Sorry Brian I just don't see too well  B^<br />
<br />
No worries! If you do get it let me know how it works out for you! As<br />
mentioned in my other email I'm looking at this for a Christmas gift idea,<br />
so I'd love to hear if it's worth it.<br />
<br />
Brian<br />
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	<description><![CDATA[&gt; Sorry guy's for being crass i thought bog was a standard aircrew word.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Yep it's a toilet, and Brian don't believe all of the fosters adds they<br />
&gt; are<br />
&gt; a big pee take, heavens we don't even drink that crap in Oz its export<br />
&gt; produce only.<br />
<br />
Wait.... an advertising company.... lied to me?<br />
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