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Fri, 28 January 2011 18:07  |
 Stig Joergensen
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hi gang.
The other day, a colleague of mine showed me this..
And I think I would pass it on, as I think some of you might be interested..
http://www.ultimarc.com/ipac1.html
but look at the other products as well...
And gene..
Could I get you to write a little tutorial about CNC... I mean, what is
required? What tools to use? And CAD sw to choose... seems autodesk is very
complex, are there simpler 3d tools out there?
And on a separate note (last one, I promises)...
do any of you, by any chance, have a 747 IPC (Illustrated parts catalogue),
preferably for the 400 series, or perhaps even the new 8 series - but in
general any model will do.. then please contact me off list thanks.
Have a great one.
/Stig
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| Re: [simpits-tech] Looks cool [message #2030 is a reply to message #2029 ] |
Fri, 28 January 2011 18:28  |
Gene Buckle
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On Sat, 29 Jan 2011, Stig Joergensen wrote:
> hi gang.
>
> The other day, a colleague of mine showed me this..
>
> And I think I would pass it on, as I think some of you might be interested..
>
> http://www.ultimarc.com/ipac1.html
>
> but look at the other products as well...
>
It's nice for sure. I'll stick to my new Arduino addiction. :D
>
> And gene..
>
> Could I get you to write a little tutorial about CNC... I mean, what is
> required? What tools to use? And CAD sw to choose... seems autodesk is very
> complex, are there simpler 3d tools out there?
>
Well the problem is that creating a 3D toolpath isn't a simple process.
The software that creates it can be pretty complex and VERY, VERY
expensive. Go price MasterCAM or GibbsCAM some time. Your head will
explode. That's why I suggested Cut3D. You can do four sided machining
and it won't break the bank.
For a good tutorial on CNC, try this:
http://www.cuttingedgecnc.com/cncmain.htm
There's also some other good tutorial sites out there. Stuff that has
much better material than I can come up with on short notice.
>
> And on a separate note (last one, I promises)...
>
> do any of you, by any chance, have a 747 IPC (Illustrated parts catalogue),
> preferably for the 400 series, or perhaps even the new 8 series - but in
> general any model will do.. then please contact me off list thanks.
>
>
It might also be known as an Illustrated Parts Breakdown.
g.
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| [simpits-tech] Arduino and Aircore motors [message #2032 is a reply to message #2030 ] |
Fri, 28 January 2011 20:07 |
LawnDart
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Gene,
I am curious about the Arduino interface.. can it drive self-zeroing
aircores? It's high-time I add the right hand engine gauges in my F16. I
was going to make them servo-driven but the tight form factor may
prevent that. (Besides.. I have several new aircore motors just laying
around...)
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| Re: [simpits-tech] Arduino and Aircore motors [message #2033 is a reply to message #2032 ] |
Fri, 28 January 2011 20:24 |
Gene Buckle
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On Fri, 28 Jan 2011, Ray Sotkiewicz wrote:
> Gene,
>
> I am curious about the Arduino interface.. can it drive self-zeroing
> aircores? It's high-time I add the right hand engine gauges in my F16. I
> was going to make them servo-driven but the tight form factor may
> prevent that. (Besides.. I have several new aircore motors just laying
> around...)
The Arduino can easily do the job given the right driver chip (I don't
recall the device number right now, but it's the same one in the aircore
projects listed in Mike Powell's books). The only thing I haven't had
time to chase down is the code to drive it.
The Arduino has the potential to be an insanely great, insanely cheap
interface. It's 90% software after you add the right Shields to it AND
it'll talk at 250,000 bps.
g.
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| Re: [simpits-tech] Arduino and Aircore motors [message #2034 is a reply to message #2033 ] |
Fri, 28 January 2011 21:18 |
LawnDart
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Thanks, Gene...
That sounds like a lot of coding/soldering/drinking (Not in that
particular order =)
Know of anything a little more PnP for aircores?
On 1/28/2011 8:24 PM, Gene Buckle wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Jan 2011, Ray Sotkiewicz wrote:
>
>> Gene,
>>
>> I am curious about the Arduino interface.. can it drive self-zeroing
>> aircores? It's high-time I add the right hand engine gauges in my F16. I
>> was going to make them servo-driven but the tight form factor may
>> prevent that. (Besides.. I have several new aircore motors just laying
>> around...)
> The Arduino can easily do the job given the right driver chip (I don't
> recall the device number right now, but it's the same one in the aircore
> projects listed in Mike Powell's books). The only thing I haven't had
> time to chase down is the code to drive it.
>
> The Arduino has the potential to be an insanely great, insanely cheap
> interface. It's 90% software after you add the right Shields to it AND
> it'll talk at 250,000 bps.
>
> g.
>
>
>
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| Re: [simpits-tech] Arduino and Aircore motors [message #2035 is a reply to message #2034 ] |
Fri, 28 January 2011 21:47 |
Gene Buckle
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On Fri, 28 Jan 2011, Ray Sotkiewicz wrote:
> Thanks, Gene...
>
> That sounds like a lot of coding/soldering/drinking (Not in that
> particular order =)
>
> Know of anything a little more PnP for aircores?
>
For air cores, the Arduino is going to be the shortest path to where you
want to go unfortunately.
g.
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| Re: [simpits-tech] Looks cool [message #2038 is a reply to message #2029 ] |
Sun, 30 January 2011 14:12 |
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On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 8:07 PM, Stig Joergensen <
stig.joergensen@clearsky.dk> wrote:
> hi gang.
>
> The other day, a colleague of mine showed me this..
>
> And I think I would pass it on, as I think some of you might be
> interested..
>
> http://www.ultimarc.com/ipac1.html
>
> but look at the other products as well...
>
>
> And gene..
>
> Could I get you to write a little tutorial about CNC... I mean, what is
> required? What tools to use? And CAD sw to choose... seems autodesk is very
> complex, are there simpler 3d tools out there?
>
>
> And on a separate note (last one, I promises)...
>
> do any of you, by any chance, have a 747 IPC (Illustrated parts catalogue),
> preferably for the 400 series, or perhaps even the new 8 series - but in
> general any model will do.. then please contact me off list thanks.
>
>
> Have a great one.
>
> /Stig
>
>
>
>
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hey guys you should check out www.linuxCNC.org
looks good and its FREE.
Cris
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| Re: [simpits-tech] Arduino and Aircore motors [message #2039 is a reply to message #2033 ] |
Sun, 30 January 2011 14:15 |
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On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 10:24 PM, Gene Buckle <geneb@deltasoft.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Jan 2011, Ray Sotkiewicz wrote:
>
> > Gene,
> >
> > I am curious about the Arduino interface.. can it drive self-zeroing
> > aircores? It's high-time I add the right hand engine gauges in my F16. I
> > was going to make them servo-driven but the tight form factor may
> > prevent that. (Besides.. I have several new aircore motors just laying
> > around...)
>
> The Arduino can easily do the job given the right driver chip (I don't
> recall the device number right now, but it's the same one in the aircore
> projects listed in Mike Powell's books). The only thing I haven't had
> time to chase down is the code to drive it.
>
> The Arduino has the potential to be an insanely great, insanely cheap
> interface. It's 90% software after you add the right Shields to it AND
> it'll talk at 250,000 bps.
>
> g.
>
>
>
> --
> Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
> http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
> http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project
>
> ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
> A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
> http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!
>
> Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical
> minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which
> holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd
> by the clean end.
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you can get aircore motors here:
http://www.simcoltd.com/specialty-oem/micro-air-core/
Cris
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| Re: [simpits-tech] Arduino and Aircore motors [message #2040 is a reply to message #2039 ] |
Sun, 30 January 2011 19:10 |
LawnDart
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So let me see if I got this right for the Arduino interface:
1. Write an app that extracts FSUIPC data
2. Send it via the same app to the Arduino card using the downloadable
Arduino C library
3. Build an aircore driver interface using possibly the 14-pin DIP
(Yay!) LM 1819 (PWM driver, not the analog version)
4. Connect to Arduino PWM output to the LM1819 PWM input
5. Serve and enjoy!
If that looks good(?), I'm going to pull the trigger on this...
On 1/30/2011 2:15 PM, Cris Harrison wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 10:24 PM, Gene Buckle <geneb@deltasoft.com
> <mailto:geneb@deltasoft.com>> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 28 Jan 2011, Ray Sotkiewicz wrote:
>
> > Gene,
> >
> > I am curious about the Arduino interface.. can it drive self-zeroing
> > aircores? It's high-time I add the right hand engine gauges in
> my F16. I
> > was going to make them servo-driven but the tight form factor may
> > prevent that. (Besides.. I have several new aircore motors just
> laying
> > around...)
>
> The Arduino can easily do the job given the right driver chip (I don't
> recall the device number right now, but it's the same one in the
> aircore
> projects listed in Mike Powell's books). The only thing I haven't had
> time to chase down is the code to drive it.
>
> The Arduino has the potential to be an insanely great, insanely cheap
> interface. It's 90% software after you add the right Shields to
> it AND
> it'll talk at 250,000 bps.
>
> g.
>
>
>
> --
> Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
> http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
> http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project
>
> ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
> A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
> http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!
>
> Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional,
> illogical
> minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream
> media, which
> holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick
> up a turd
> by the clean end.
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> you can get aircore motors here:
> http://www.simcoltd.com/specialty-oem/micro-air-core/
>
> Cris
>
>
>
>
> We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act,
> but a habit.
> Aristotle
>
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| Re: [simpits-tech] Arduino and Aircore motors [message #2042 is a reply to message #2040 ] |
Mon, 31 January 2011 07:16 |
Gene Buckle
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On Sun, 30 Jan 2011, Ray Sotkiewicz wrote:
>
> So let me see if I got this right for the Arduino interface:
>
> 1. Write an app that extracts FSUIPC data
Yes.
> 2. Send it via the same app to the Arduino card using the downloadable
> Arduino C library
Well you'll need to write an application that runs *on* the Arduino (Atmel
ATMega 328 in this case) to control the air core motors. The application
on the PC will just shove data at the Arduino via the serial port.
> 3. Build an aircore driver interface using possibly the 14-pin DIP (Yay!) LM
> 1819 (PWM driver, not the analog version)
> 4. Connect to Arduino PWM output to the LM1819 PWM input
I would recommend using the chip that Mike specs in his books (LM298?). I
suspect they're cheaper and much easier to find than the LM1819.
The software on the microcontroller end would be a bit more complex, but
you'd get more bang from your buck.
Mike, please step in if I'm incorrect, but I think the air-core board in
the BSAI & BRFS books uses four lines from the microcontroller, which
means you can easily drive four air-core based instruments from a single
Arduino Uno or Deumillanove(sp!). You can get Chinese mfg. Arduino boards
off of eBay vendors for about $10 each if you don't want to pay full-boat
from SparkFun. You might also want to look into the Seeduino and other
"'duino" work-alikes.
An Arduno "cockpit stack" consists of two Centipede Shields (64 channels
of digital I/O, $20 each) one Mux Shield (48 channels, analog or digital
input or digital output, $24 each) and an Arduno Uno/Deumillanove at the
bottom. This gives you all the I/O you could possibly need for a
"typical" cockpit for under $100.
When we get the collimating mirror project completed, I'm going to start
work on the F-15 again and part of that will be to write some code for
Lightning's JoyMapper program that will allow an Arduino to appear like a
DirectX joystick, much like it does for the PHCC hardware.
g.
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