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Gene

Isn't the IoCards SDK any good to you?

Dave
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Re: [simpits-tech] IOCards [message #209 is a reply to message #208 ] Thu, 26 March 2009 12:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Thu, 26 Mar 2009, Dave wrote:

> Gene
>
> Isn't the IoCards SDK any good to you?
>

Got a link Dave? I've been able to find nothing but that SIOC crap.

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Re: [simpits-tech] IOCards [message #210 is a reply to message #209 ] Thu, 26 March 2009 12:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gene

Here's the link http://www.cockpitware.com/

Hope it's of use!

Dave

<http://www.cockpitware.com/>

Gene Buckle wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Mar 2009, Dave wrote:
>
>
>> Gene
>>
>> Isn't the IoCards SDK any good to you?
>>
>>
>
> Got a link Dave? I've been able to find nothing but that SIOC crap.
>
> g.
>
>

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Re: [simpits-tech] IOCards [message #211 is a reply to message #210 ] Thu, 26 March 2009 12:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Thu, 26 Mar 2009, Dave wrote:

> Gene
>
> Here's the link http://www.cockpitware.com/
>

That appears to be the exact thing that OpenCockpits wouldn't provide.
I'll have to dig into it. I've got money going out on other things
though, so I won't be able to buy any of the hardware for a while.

I'll post a note here if I'm able to get my hands on the SDK. The forum
appears dead.

g.

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Re: [simpits-tech] IOCards [message #217 is a reply to message #211 ] Fri, 27 March 2009 00:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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THANKS G.

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On Thu, 26 Mar 2009, Dave wrote:

> Gene
>
> Here's the link http://www.cockpitware.com/
>

That appears to be the exact thing that OpenCockpits wouldn't provide.
I'll have to dig into it. I've got money going out on other things
though, so I won't be able to buy any of the hardware for a while.

I'll post a note here if I'm able to get my hands on the SDK. The forum
appears dead.

g.

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Re: [simpits-tech] IOCards [message #218 is a reply to message #217 ] Fri, 27 March 2009 00:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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g. you know Phidget
why not uset his HardWare as interface ??

/Frank

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On Thu, 26 Mar 2009, Dave wrote:

> Gene
>
> Here's the link http://www.cockpitware.com/
>

That appears to be the exact thing that OpenCockpits wouldn't provide.
I'll have to dig into it. I've got money going out on other things
though, so I won't be able to buy any of the hardware for a while.

I'll post a note here if I'm able to get my hands on the SDK. The forum
appears dead.

g.

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Re: [simpits-tech] IOCards [message #220 is a reply to message #218 ] Fri, 27 March 2009 06:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Fri, 27 Mar 2009, Frank Riedel wrote:

> g. you know Phidget
> why not uset his HardWare as interface ??
>

Primarily because there are better options out there. One platform I'm
looking pretty deeply into is the PHCC (Pic Home Cockpit Controller)
platform. The website is here: http://phcc.varxec.net/wiki/Main_Page

A number of people that use Falcon are getting into them. I'm sure Jay
can point you at the right forum.

g.



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Re: [simpits-tech] IOCards [message #221 is a reply to message #220 ] Fri, 27 March 2009 15:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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There's still no real software for this yet. There is the Joymapper by
David Lazar that will allow the PHCC to be seen as multiple windows
joysticks. This gives the advantage of being able to map switches to
directx instead of keystrokes. However, there is still no viable interface
for output of data bits and light bits yet. There are several being worked
on but no one has released anything yet.

Jay

Show me a man who cannot be bothered to do the little things, and I will
show you a man who cannot be trusted to do the big ones.
--Lawrence Bell, Founder Bell Helicopter

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On Fri, 27 Mar 2009, Frank Riedel wrote:

> g. you know Phidget
> why not uset his HardWare as interface ??
>

Primarily because there are better options out there. One platform I'm
looking pretty deeply into is the PHCC (Pic Home Cockpit Controller)
platform. The website is here: http://phcc.varxec.net/wiki/Main_Page

A number of people that use Falcon are getting into them. I'm sure Jay
can point you at the right forum.

g.



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[simpits-tech] a Newcomer... [message #222 is a reply to message #221 ] Fri, 27 March 2009 21:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hello, all

I've been lurking on this mailing list for a little while, but it's time
the silence is broken. :-)

I have been building a 777 flight deck since 1997. While it has
progressed quite a bit since, I have to be honest with myself and say
that performing takeoffs then flying on AP for 5 hours, then performing
an ILS landing is getting boring.

I want to blow stuff up.

I have my heart set on an F/A-18 cockpit. However, it looks like there's
pretty much nothing out there that will give me guns/bombs with the
ability to interface something like EPIC and/or FSUIPC.

I hope for some sage advice.

Thanks~!
Ray Sotkiewicz



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Re: [simpits-tech] IOCards [message #223 is a reply to message #221 ] Fri, 27 March 2009 22:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Fri, 27 Mar 2009, Joseph Fagner wrote:

> There's still no real software for this yet. There is the Joymapper by
> David Lazar that will allow the PHCC to be seen as multiple windows
> joysticks. This gives the advantage of being able to map switches to
> directx instead of keystrokes. However, there is still no viable interface
> for output of data bits and light bits yet. There are several being worked
> on but no one has released anything yet.
>
Really? Wow. I'd have thought someone had something done already.
There's a nice interface dll a guy did that makes talking to the PHCC
pretty easy.

g.
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Re: [simpits-tech] a Newcomer... [message #224 is a reply to message #222 ] Fri, 27 March 2009 22:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Fri, 27 Mar 2009, Ray Sotkiewicz wrote:

> Hello, all
>
> I've been lurking on this mailing list for a little while, but it's time
> the silence is broken. :-)
>
Hi Ray. I was wondering when you were going to speak up. :)
Welcome!

> I want to blow stuff up.
>
Ahh. Good man! :)

> I have my heart set on an F/A-18 cockpit. However, it looks like there's
> pretty much nothing out there that will give me guns/bombs with the
> ability to interface something like EPIC and/or FSUIPC.
>
If you're not afraid to write your own glue code, you can use Lock On:
Modern Air Combat. That's pretty much your only bet for the F/A-18 and
even then it'll be a tweak to the in-game F-15 model.

g.

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Re: [simpits-tech] a Newcomer... [message #225 is a reply to message #222 ] Fri, 27 March 2009 22:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bout time you came to the dark side.

As gene said, software for the F18 is pretty much nil. LOMAC is your best
bet really....or come over to the other side and build an F-16, there is
SOOOOO much more stuff for it from the software and hardware aspect. With
the 18 you are pretty much where the 16 guys were 10 years ago. Gene is the
only real one building an F15 I've seen and when you see his platform you'll
know why. If I had that I'd be building an F15 as well.

jay

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show you a man who cannot be trusted to do the big ones.
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Subject: [simpits-tech] a Newcomer...

Hello, all

I've been lurking on this mailing list for a little while, but it's time
the silence is broken. :-)

I have been building a 777 flight deck since 1997. While it has
progressed quite a bit since, I have to be honest with myself and say
that performing takeoffs then flying on AP for 5 hours, then performing
an ILS landing is getting boring.

I want to blow stuff up.

I have my heart set on an F/A-18 cockpit. However, it looks like there's
pretty much nothing out there that will give me guns/bombs with the
ability to interface something like EPIC and/or FSUIPC.

I hope for some sage advice.

Thanks~!
Ray Sotkiewicz



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Re: [simpits-tech] a Newcomer... [message #226 is a reply to message #225 ] Fri, 27 March 2009 22:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I vacillated between the F16 and F18. I'm partial to the F18 as it was
my bird in the service and I can get exact measurements from a static at
the Museum of Flight in Seattle.

However... I just downloaded/installed Falcon4 with the OpenFalcon stuff
on top and ..... WOW!

Is anyone doing the stand-alone MFDs for Falcon? Is the concept even
possible yet...

Questions questions questions....

(Don't tell my wife I went to the dark side....)
Ray







Joseph Fagner wrote:
> Bout time you came to the dark side.
>
> As gene said, software for the F18 is pretty much nil. LOMAC is your best
> bet really....or come over to the other side and build an F-16, there is
> SOOOOO much more stuff for it from the software and hardware aspect. With
> the 18 you are pretty much where the 16 guys were 10 years ago. Gene is the
> only real one building an F15 I've seen and when you see his platform you'll
> know why. If I had that I'd be building an F15 as well.
>
> jay
>
> Show me a man who cannot be bothered to do the little things, and I will
> show you a man who cannot be trusted to do the big ones.
> --Lawrence Bell, Founder Bell Helicopter
> -----Original Message-----
> From: simpits-tech-bounces@simpits.org
> [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces@simpits.org] On Behalf Of Ray Sotkiewicz
> Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 11:36 PM
> To: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List
> Subject: [simpits-tech] a Newcomer...
>
> Hello, all
>
> I've been lurking on this mailing list for a little while, but it's time
> the silence is broken. :-)
>
> I have been building a 777 flight deck since 1997. While it has
> progressed quite a bit since, I have to be honest with myself and say
> that performing takeoffs then flying on AP for 5 hours, then performing
> an ILS landing is getting boring.
>
> I want to blow stuff up.
>
> I have my heart set on an F/A-18 cockpit. However, it looks like there's
> pretty much nothing out there that will give me guns/bombs with the
> ability to interface something like EPIC and/or FSUIPC.
>
> I hope for some sage advice.
>
> Thanks~!
> Ray Sotkiewicz
>
>
>
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Re: [simpits-tech] a Newcomer... [message #227 is a reply to message #226 ] Fri, 27 March 2009 23:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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By stand alone MFDs, you mean functional screens? Yes it can be done. A
guy on the VP wrote a program called MFD extractor for this very thing. It
takes that screen and sends it to another machine over a network connection
and you can get functional MFDs. A bit of work to get there but it's
doable. Should work with Open Falcon since that was the version of falcon
it was written and tested for. Plus, the data that can be extracted and
piped into the pit is growing day by day. There's not too darn much you
can't hook up no a days. The avionics are pretty damn realistic...probably
not as precise and accurate as the ones in MSFS for the heavies, but they
are as good as you'll see in any mil sim outside of the military.

Go check out Viperpit.org...it will take you a good solid month or two to go
through everything. I would start with pit threads first and that will give
you an idea of what people have done and where they are. There's a near
100% chance that any question you have will have been asked and answered at
least 3x previously and with each progression the answer is different
because things have advanced.

Jay

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[mailto:simpits-tech-bounces@simpits.org] On Behalf Of Ray Sotkiewicz
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 12:49 AM
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Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] a Newcomer...

I vacillated between the F16 and F18. I'm partial to the F18 as it was
my bird in the service and I can get exact measurements from a static at
the Museum of Flight in Seattle.

However... I just downloaded/installed Falcon4 with the OpenFalcon stuff
on top and ..... WOW!

Is anyone doing the stand-alone MFDs for Falcon? Is the concept even
possible yet...

Questions questions questions....

(Don't tell my wife I went to the dark side....)
Ray







Joseph Fagner wrote:
> Bout time you came to the dark side.
>
> As gene said, software for the F18 is pretty much nil. LOMAC is your best
> bet really....or come over to the other side and build an F-16, there is
> SOOOOO much more stuff for it from the software and hardware aspect. With
> the 18 you are pretty much where the 16 guys were 10 years ago. Gene is
the
> only real one building an F15 I've seen and when you see his platform
you'll
> know why. If I had that I'd be building an F15 as well.
>
> jay
>
> Show me a man who cannot be bothered to do the little things, and I will
> show you a man who cannot be trusted to do the big ones.
> --Lawrence Bell, Founder Bell Helicopter
> -----Original Message-----
> From: simpits-tech-bounces@simpits.org
> [mailto:simpits-tech-bounces@simpits.org] On Behalf Of Ray Sotkiewicz
> Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 11:36 PM
> To: Simulator Cockpit Builder's List
> Subject: [simpits-tech] a Newcomer...
>
> Hello, all
>
> I've been lurking on this mailing list for a little while, but it's time
> the silence is broken. :-)
>
> I have been building a 777 flight deck since 1997. While it has
> progressed quite a bit since, I have to be honest with myself and say
> that performing takeoffs then flying on AP for 5 hours, then performing
> an ILS landing is getting boring.
>
> I want to blow stuff up.
>
> I have my heart set on an F/A-18 cockpit. However, it looks like there's
> pretty much nothing out there that will give me guns/bombs with the
> ability to interface something like EPIC and/or FSUIPC.
>
> I hope for some sage advice.
>
> Thanks~!
> Ray Sotkiewicz
>
>
>
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Re: [simpits-tech] a Newcomer... [message #228 is a reply to message #226 ] Sat, 28 March 2009 07:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Fri, 27 Mar 2009, Ray Sotkiewicz wrote:

>
> (Don't tell my wife I went to the dark side....)
> Ray

It's ok Ray, we have cookies. :)

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Re: [simpits-tech] a Newcomer... [message #229 is a reply to message #222 ] Sat, 28 March 2009 10:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hello Ray,

welcome in the community and all the best for your F/A-18 dream :-))

Have a nice weekend
Martin "Pegasus"

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Re: [simpits-tech] a Newcomer... [message #230 is a reply to message #229 ] Sat, 28 March 2009 10:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Frank Riedel  is currently offline Frank Riedel
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WOW Pegasus
Still alive...
How is your status on simulator?

All the best
Frank

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Hello Ray,

welcome in the community and all the best for your F/A-18 dream :-))

Have a nice weekend
Martin "Pegasus"

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Re: [simpits-tech] a Newcomer... [message #232 is a reply to message #229 ] Sun, 29 March 2009 16:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mark Collins  is currently offline Mark Collins
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Pegasus...
from the 187th Avengers?

Slarti

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Hello Ray,

welcome in the community and all the best for your F/A-18 dream :-))

Have a nice weekend
Martin "Pegasus"

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Re: [simpits-tech] a Newcomer... [message #233 is a reply to message #232 ] Mon, 30 March 2009 11:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Slarti,

no, it's long time ago that I was in the 23rd Hawks (F-16 VFS).

Best wishes
Martin

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Pegasus...
from the 187th Avengers?

Slarti

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[simpits-tech] You guys saw this right? [message #258 is a reply to message #209 ] Sun, 26 April 2009 17:06 Go to previous message
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It's pretty awesome I think. Probably old news but thought I would share anyway

http://www.schreinerschmid.com/11501.html

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