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[simpits-tech] Another ebay find......future X-Plane GPS :) [message #2707] Mon, 27 February 2012 20:44 Go to next message
dabigboy  is currently offline dabigboy
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So I ran across a little curiosity on ebay the other night, the price was *almost* right, and the seller went for my modestly lower offer.....I wasn't even sure what it was until some googling turned up info on the old Omega navigation system. Seems it's the control head for a Tracor 7900 CDU, an Omega-based system:

http://www.aircraftstock.com/images/newfolder/05302009/ta790 01.JPG

What's funny is I just found another one on ebay that actually has a bunch of bids and is up to almost twice what I got mine for.......yay for people not including model numbers in the description, right? :)

What I can't figure out is what on earth anyone who's NOT into flight simulators would want an Omega CDU for, the system isn't even functioning anymore. But then I see folks fighting over old LORANS now and then too.......filmmakers? Museum curators? Pack-rats? Fellow simpitters? :)

Anyway, one of my dilemmas with my simulator has been getting a GPS for my X-Plane-based sim. I want to pick up a used KLN-89 or similar unit and feed it NMEA data, that would be awesome....but even if I have the good fortune to score an annunciator unit with it (I have one now but it's for a Northstar Loran), the one huge shortfall is that it won't be linked to X-Plane's NAV system for using a CDI or HSI for instrument approaches (or even general navigation).

As some of you may know, there is virtually no support for writing data to X-Plane's built-in GPS But you can READ from the GPS using the X-Plane SDK, and you can program mouse-clicks at arbitrary points on the screen. So, I have decided to write my own little custom CDU/FMS software for the Tracor (probably running on a small embedded PC), and write mouse-click events to the X-Plane instrument panel for tuning the built-in GPS. Of course once I have that much working, I can go ahead and write all sorts of neat little flight-planning routines (like fuel management, weight/balance screens, and other FMS-ish things), and even parse the built-in nav data to bring up information like frequencies, runways, etc. This shall be fun!

Matt
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Re: [simpits-tech] Another ebay find......future X-Plane GPS :) [message #2709 is a reply to message #2707 ] Tue, 28 February 2012 08:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Mon, 27 Feb 2012, dabigboy@cox.net wrote:

> So I ran across a little curiosity on ebay the other night, the price was *almost* right, and the seller went for my modestly lower offer.....I wasn't even sure what it was until some googling turned up info on the old Omega navigation system. Seems it's the control head for a Tracor 7900 CDU, an Omega-based system:
>
> http://www.aircraftstock.com/images/newfolder/05302009/ta790 01.JPG
>
You might want to look at building something around this:
http://www.sparkfun.com/products/11075

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Re: [simpits-tech] Another ebay find......future X-Plane GPS :) [message #2712 is a reply to message #2709 ] Tue, 28 February 2012 13:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gene Buckle wrote:

> You might want to look at building something around this:
http://www.sparkfun.com/products/11075

Interesting. This one may be more cumbersome to program and mount, but
you can get a full Linux system with a slightly smaller touchscreen for
~30 dollars less: http://www.mini-box.com/ARM-Systems (pico)
Or a larger screen for ~20 dollars more. (mini-2440)

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Re: [simpits-tech] Another ebay find......future X-Plane GPS :) [message #2715 is a reply to message #2712 ] Tue, 28 February 2012 20:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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---- Roberto Waltman <fsim@rwaltman.com> wrote:
> Gene Buckle wrote:
>
> > You might want to look at building something around this:
> http://www.sparkfun.com/products/11075
>
> Interesting. This one may be more cumbersome to program and mount, but
> you can get a full Linux system with a slightly smaller touchscreen for
> ~30 dollars less: http://www.mini-box.com/ARM-Systems (pico)
> Or a larger screen for ~20 dollars more. (mini-2440)

Oh my, that does look nice. I only really need the board itself...I have a PS1 LCD that I will use for the display. Main issue with it is I have to use a component (RCA) connection, but the slightly low-quality image should go well with the old-school 80s look I'm going for, what with the Gables analog radios and all.

Thanks for the links, guys!

Matt
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Re: [simpits-tech] Another ebay find......future X-Plane GPS :) [message #2716 is a reply to message #2715 ] Wed, 29 February 2012 14:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Tue, 28 Feb 2012, dabigboy@cox.net wrote:

> Oh my, that does look nice. I only really need the board itself...I have
> a PS1 LCD that I will use for the display. Main issue with it is I have
> to use a component (RCA) connection, but the slightly low-quality image
> should go well with the old-school 80s look I'm going for, what with the
> Gables analog radios and all.
>
> Thanks for the links, guys!
>
Matt, the Raspberry Pi offers an RCA video out and it's $35 for the 256MB
version...

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[simpits-tech] Raspberry-pi SBC for sims. [message #2717 is a reply to message #2716 ] Thu, 01 March 2012 10:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gene Buckle wrote:
> Matt, the Raspberry Pi offers an RCA video out and it's $35 for the 256MB
> version...

It (finally!) become available this week - Tried to buy one but the
dealer's stock was emptied in no time.

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Re: [simpits-tech] Raspberry-pi SBC for sims. [message #2718 is a reply to message #2717 ] Thu, 01 March 2012 15:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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10,000 units gone in the blink of an eye. Demand pulled down all three
web-sites concerned too.

Expect about a 6 week wait now for more stock :(

Roy.


On 1 March 2012 18:50, Roberto Waltman <fsim@rwaltman.com> wrote:

> Gene Buckle wrote:
> > Matt, the Raspberry Pi offers an RCA video out and it's $35 for the 256MB
> > version...
>
> It (finally!) become available this week - Tried to buy one but the
> dealer's stock was emptied in no time.
>
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Re: [simpits-tech] Raspberry-pi SBC for sims. [message #2719 is a reply to message #2718 ] Thu, 01 March 2012 15:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Thu, 1 Mar 2012, Roy Coates wrote:

> 10,000 units gone in the blink of an eye. Demand pulled down all three
> web-sites concerned too.
>
> Expect about a 6 week wait now for more stock :(
>
Yeah, but this is a good thing for the Raspberry Pi Foundation. I can
wait for them to get more made. :)

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Re: [simpits-tech] Raspberry-pi SBC for sims. [message #2720 is a reply to message #2719 ] Thu, 01 March 2012 17:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Is there a certain display that can go with these cards? Looks really good...



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On Thu, 1 Mar 2012, Roy Coates wrote:

> 10,000 units gone in the blink of an eye. Demand pulled down all three
> web-sites concerned too.
>
> Expect about a 6 week wait now for more stock :(
>
Yeah, but this is a good thing for the Raspberry Pi Foundation. I can
wait for them to get more made. :)

g.

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Re: [simpits-tech] Raspberry-pi SBC for sims. [message #2721 is a reply to message #2720 ] Thu, 01 March 2012 16:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Fri, 2 Mar 2012, raysot@comcast.net wrote:

>
> Is there a certain display that can go with these cards? Looks really good...
>
As far as I know, any HDMI display will work as well as anything that can
take a composite signal.

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Re: [simpits-tech] Another ebay find......future X-Plane GPS :) [message #2722 is a reply to message #2716 ] Thu, 01 March 2012 19:35 Go to previous message
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---- Gene Buckle <geneb@deltasoft.com> wrote:
> >
> Matt, the Raspberry Pi offers an RCA video out and it's $35 for the 256MB
> version...
>
> g.

Oh rest assured, I am buying a Raspberry as soon as they come available....one look at the link that was posted a while back and I knew this is something I needed. :) I didn't know it had RCA out, that is PERFECT.......won't need to use my VGA to RCA converter.

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