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| Re: [simpits-tech] 16 channel output board is done! [message #1492 is a reply to message #1491 ] |
Sun, 08 August 2010 00:01   |
 Sean Galbraith
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...and I am assuming my name is already there... right Gene?
Oh, and excellent work, as usual :)
SeanG
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On Sat, 7 Aug 2010, Roy Coates wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Aug 2010, Gene Buckle wrote:
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>> I've ordered blank boards today and I'll be selling them (the ones I
don't
>> consume myself) for $10 each (most likely). Everything you need to
have
>> your own boards made are included in the zip file listed above.
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> You can certainly put my name on that list Sir !
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Noted. :)
g.
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| Re: [simpits-tech] 16 channel output board is done! [message #1493 is a reply to message #1492 ] |
Sun, 08 August 2010 08:57 |
Gene Buckle
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On Sun, 8 Aug 2010, Sean Galbraith wrote:
> ...and I am assuming my name is already there... right Gene?
> Oh, and excellent work, as usual :)
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Thanks Sean. I'll post to the list when the boards show up.
Leo Bodnar brought a good point to my attention yesterday. While the
UL2803 can indeed handle 500mA per channel max, that's not what the
devices as a whole can sustain.
I never thought to check, but the part has a max draw per channel of about
150mA if you're driving all 8 at the same time. The Toshiba datasheet for
the part I'm using states a max dissipation of 1.47W. At 5 volts, that's
only 294mA. At the voltage I want to drive it at (24vDC), it's less than
100mA.
This is great for driving LEDs, but completely sucks for driving
incandescent bulbs or more than one or two relays. Just about every
single digital output board that I've ever seen has _never_ mentioned this
limitation.
When time permits, I'll look into crafting up a little daughter board that
will hold 16 power transistors that can source up to an amp each. What'll
drive you guys crazy is in order to turn an output ON, you'll have to turn
the corresponding Gaz16 channel OFF. :) The good news is that I took this
into account when I developed the firmware so it won't be too bad. The
board would need to drive all the outputs high on boot though - again, a
simple tweak to the firmware. Could even be made an EEPROM storable
setting like the board ID is now.
How many of you downloaded the design and looked at the firmware source?
It's the .PDE file in the archive - it's plain text.
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| Re: [simpits-tech] 16 channel output board is done! [message #1495 is a reply to message #1493 ] |
Thu, 12 August 2010 00:39 |
Per Eriksson
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Long time lurker, first time poster...
> Leo Bodnar brought a good point to my attention yesterday. While the
> UL2803 can indeed handle 500mA per channel max, that's not what the
> devices as a whole can sustain.
>
> I never thought to check, but the part has a max draw per channel of about
> 150mA if you're driving all 8 at the same time. The Toshiba datasheet for
> the part I'm using states a max dissipation of 1.47W. At 5 volts, that's
> only 294mA. At the voltage I want to drive it at (24vDC), it's less than
> 100mA.
>
I've looked at the datasheet for ULN2803AP, because I assume that's the one
you're using. 1.47W is stated in the 'Maximum ratings', what most
manufacturers would call 'Absolute maximum'. I would not suggest using that
figure for calculating normal operational conditions. It will fail if used
at max rating, just not right away.
Also, I think you're using Vce when calculating power dissipation. Remember
to use Vce(sat) instead.
...
Just about every
> single digital output board that I've ever seen has _never_ mentioned this
> limitation.
>
Same observation here...
Back to my hole!
BR,
Per E
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| Re: [simpits-tech] 16 channel output board is done! [message #1497 is a reply to message #1496 ] |
Thu, 12 August 2010 09:44 |
Per Eriksson
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2010/8/12 Gene Buckle <geneb@deltasoft.com>
> On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, Per Eriksson wrote:
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> > Long time lurker, first time poster...
> >
> Welcome to the zoo! :)
>
Thankyouverymuch!
As soon as I get the chance I'm going to get some IRL520N parts to
> test with. They should be able to handle pretty much anything you can hit
> 'em with (within reason of course) and are .65 each from Jameco.
Should work great, as long as you're careful with inductive or capacitive
loads. They're easily destroyed as long as you're talented and/or
resourceful enough. The datasheet is your friend, and ALL of the datasheet.
Much sim-related hardware seems to be designed with just small portions of
the datasheets handy. I've done that myself enough times to know it's bad.
Anyways, MOSFETs should be treated like children.
(I'm sure you know this already, but now I've broken the silence and can't
stop.)
BR,
Per E
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| Re: [simpits-tech] 16 channel output board is done! [message #1498 is a reply to message #1497 ] |
Thu, 12 August 2010 09:57 |
Gene Buckle
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On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, Per Eriksson wrote:
> As soon as I get the chance I'm going to get some IRL520N parts to
>> test with. They should be able to handle pretty much anything you can hit
>> 'em with (within reason of course) and are .65 each from Jameco.
>
>
> Should work great, as long as you're careful with inductive or capacitive
> loads. They're easily destroyed as long as you're talented and/or
> resourceful enough. The datasheet is your friend, and ALL of the datasheet.
> Much sim-related hardware seems to be designed with just small portions of
> the datasheets handy. I've done that myself enough times to know it's bad.
That was my mistake. I'd assumed that since the ULN2803 seemed to be a
pretty universal solution for digital outputs at its "full" rating, it
would be ok. I wonder how many people blew boards up thinking they could
drag 4A out of one little chip.
> Anyways, MOSFETs should be treated like children.
>
Ignored and told to shut up all the time? :)
I've never used a MOSFET before so I'll be doing plenty of research on the
'net. I suspect I'll kill one or two on the breadboard before I get it
right.
> (I'm sure you know this already, but now I've broken the silence and can't
> stop.)
>
S'ok, it's been way too quiet here lately.
I discovered a well kept secret yesterday that the F4 guys have been using
for a while now.
http://www.assembla.com/wiki/show/lightningstools
Scroll down to the JoyMapper project. Used in combination with PPJoy,
it's a very slick setup. The source for JoyMapper is also available.
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| Re: [simpits-tech] 16 channel output board is done! [message #1501 is a reply to message #1498 ] |
Thu, 12 August 2010 13:15 |
Per Eriksson
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> > Should work great, as long as you're careful with inductive or capacitive
> > loads. They're easily destroyed as long as you're talented and/or
> > resourceful enough. The datasheet is your friend, and ALL of the
> datasheet.
> > Much sim-related hardware seems to be designed with just small portions
> of
> > the datasheets handy. I've done that myself enough times to know it's
> bad.
> That was my mistake. I'd assumed that since the ULN2803 seemed to be a
> pretty universal solution for digital outputs at its "full" rating, it
> would be ok. I wonder how many people blew boards up thinking they could
> drag 4A out of one little chip.
>
> I've probably done it myself. Luckily, i forget quickly.
> > Anyways, MOSFETs should be treated like children.
> >
> Ignored and told to shut up all the time? :)
>
> Exactly!
> Scroll down to the JoyMapper project. Used in combination with PPJoy,
> it's a very slick setup. The source for JoyMapper is also available.
That's cool! However, the MFD extractor, which was news to me, made me wet
my pants! Oh, how I would love multiple OTW views in *Falcon. I would start
building at once! Come to think of it, i would like multiple OTW views in
any good military sim...
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| Re: [simpits-tech] 16 channel output board is done! [message #1502 is a reply to message #1501 ] |
Thu, 12 August 2010 12:13 |
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On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, Per Eriksson wrote:
> That's cool! However, the MFD extractor, which was news to me, made me wet
> my pants! Oh, how I would love multiple OTW views in *Falcon. I would start
> building at once! Come to think of it, i would like multiple OTW views in
> any good military sim...
Hasn't Frank ??? already sorted that for Falcon 4 ?
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| Re: [simpits-tech] 16 channel output board is done! [message #1503 is a reply to message #1501 ] |
Thu, 12 August 2010 13:32 |
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On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, Per Eriksson wrote:
>> Scroll down to the JoyMapper project. Used in combination with PPJoy,
>> it's a very slick setup. The source for JoyMapper is also available.
>
>
> That's cool! However, the MFD extractor, which was news to me, made me wet
> my pants! Oh, how I would love multiple OTW views in *Falcon. I would start
> building at once! Come to think of it, i would like multiple OTW views in
> any good military sim...
The source code for Falcon is out there. Have at. :)
g.
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| Re: [simpits-tech] 16 channel output board is done! [message #1504 is a reply to message #1503 ] |
Thu, 12 August 2010 13:37 |
Ido Dekkers
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if you don't mind a very old version with no possibility for upgrades
unless you have very good contacts, the version on the net is 1.0.7 which
you can't do anything with.
but MFD exporter is working great so you can use it.
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:32 PM, Gene Buckle <geneb@deltasoft.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, Per Eriksson wrote:
>
> >> Scroll down to the JoyMapper project. Used in combination with PPJoy,
> >> it's a very slick setup. The source for JoyMapper is also available.
> >
> >
> > That's cool! However, the MFD extractor, which was news to me, made me
> wet
> > my pants! Oh, how I would love multiple OTW views in *Falcon. I would
> start
> > building at once! Come to think of it, i would like multiple OTW views in
> > any good military sim...
>
> The source code for Falcon is out there. Have at. :)
>
> g.
>
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| Re: [simpits-tech] Falcon 4 Source Code ? [message #1515 is a reply to message #1510 ] |
Thu, 12 August 2010 14:16 |
Ido Dekkers
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will have to dig to find if i still have it.
do mind that since the 107, they "upgraded" it from crappy DX5 to not much
less crappy DX7,
and made tons of updates.
BTW, apparently, most of the bugs (at least by LP that hold the IP now)
where due to problems in the reference tables of the planes and weapons.
the best person to talk to about htis would be either Boxer which was part
of the team working on it till LP took over ,
or Lightning from the VP forum, which did the MFD extractor, and lots of
other nice stuff,
he really went deep into the code.
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:00 AM, Gene Buckle <geneb@deltasoft.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, Roy Coates wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, Ido Dekkers wrote:
> >
> >> if you don't mind a very old version with no possibility for upgrades
> >
> >
> > Hi Ido - I'd still like to have a rummage through the code if you know
> > where I can find some. All I've found so far are dubious torrents and
> > con-sites asking for cash.
> >
> I had it at one point, but I have no clue where it's gone off to. If
> memory serves they had a Klingon Bird of Prey sitting among the rest of
> the 3D models. :)
>
> g.
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| Re: [simpits-tech] 16 channel output board is done! [message #1517 is a reply to message #1514 ] |
Thu, 12 August 2010 14:27 |
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On Fri, 13 Aug 2010, Sean Galbraith wrote:
>>> Wings over Vietnam/Europe/Israel etc support TH2GO.... I know it's
> not
>>> that hi-tech for you combat geeks, but it does have pretty visuals :)
>>>
>> Sean, what kind of FOV can you get out of that setup? I love the
>> ThirdWire stuff...
>
> <me rummaging around....> I'll have to dig out a TH2GO and test that
> and report back :) I love the Thirdwire sims too.. they have Skyhawks,
> and Phantoms, my top 2 aircraft of all time!
>
Yeah, they do some great stuff. I own most of them. Did they ever give
us sim geeks a way to pull data out of the sim?
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| Re: [simpits-tech] 16 channel output board is done! [message #1520 is a reply to message #1519 ] |
Thu, 12 August 2010 14:48 |
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gmail said delivery failed so i'm sending it again:
regarding OF - yes, the code is still in the hands of the developers, thy
just agreeed not to do anything with it whan LP came into the scene.
and LO is not that accurate is it?
here is Lightning's thread about the MFD extractor if anyone is interested:
http://www.viperpits.org/smf/index.php?topic=3376.570;topicseen
oh BTW, roy, if you happen to need an SR-71 seat:
http://www.viperpits.org/smf/index.php?topic=6073.0;topicseen
it's in the UK
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:37 AM, Gene Buckle <geneb@deltasoft.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Aug 2010, Ido Dekkers wrote:
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> > is there any sim out there that can output as much as F4 and as real or
> even
> > close to it? (mill one of course)
> >
> Lock On: Modern Air Combat will let you pull a ton of data out of it via
> Lua. I suspect that Black Shark will as well as it's done by the same
> guys.
>
> > unless LP ever finish upgrading F4 as they said they will (for 4 years
> now?)
> > or someone picks up on OpenFalcon.
> >
> Is the OF project something that CAN be picked up?
>
> > AFAIK the only real sim still in development today is xPlane, am i wrong?
> >
> Well Lockheed is going to be releasing something based on the ESP platform
> - I don't know what form that will take though.
>
> FlightGear is in active development, but when you start talking combat
> features you'd swear you just announced you'd be killing kittens for door
> prizes based on the reaction. They have a *huge* "bunny hugger*
> contingent. The sad thing is, from a purely technical standpoint it's
> right between MSFS and X-Plane for flight model accuracy.
>
> g.
>
>
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| Re: [simpits-tech] 16 channel output board is done! [message #1522 is a reply to message #1521 ] |
Thu, 12 August 2010 15:01 |
Ido Dekkers
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hmm, you should really get OF 4.7,
it's amazing what dedicated people can do when they do it out of love.
it a million times better then the boxed one.and a million times better the
AF by LP
what LP basically did was take the patches that where available at the time,
ignoring some of the best, and pack it in a new box.
nothing more.
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:55 AM, Gene Buckle <geneb@deltasoft.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Aug 2010, Ido Dekkers wrote:
>
> > gmail said delivery failed so i'm sending it again:
> >
> > regarding OF - yes, the code is still in the hands of the developers, thy
> > just agreeed not to do anything with it whan LP came into the scene.
> > and LO is not that accurate is it?
> >
> I don't know. The only version of Falcon I ever used was the original
> boxed edition. :)
>
> g.
>
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| Re: [simpits-tech] 16 channel output board is done! [message #1523 is a reply to message #1522 ] |
Thu, 12 August 2010 15:02 |
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oh, if you have problems finding it - drop me a note
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 1:01 AM, Ido Dekkers <idekkers@gmail.com> wrote:
> hmm, you should really get OF 4.7,
> it's amazing what dedicated people can do when they do it out of love.
> it a million times better then the boxed one.and a million times better the
> AF by LP
>
> what LP basically did was take the patches that where available at the
> time, ignoring some of the best, and pack it in a new box.
> nothing more.
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:55 AM, Gene Buckle <geneb@deltasoft.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 13 Aug 2010, Ido Dekkers wrote:
>>
>> > gmail said delivery failed so i'm sending it again:
>> >
>> > regarding OF - yes, the code is still in the hands of the developers,
>> thy
>> > just agreeed not to do anything with it whan LP came into the scene.
>> > and LO is not that accurate is it?
>> >
>> I don't know. The only version of Falcon I ever used was the original
>> boxed edition. :)
>>
>> g.
>>
>>
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| Re: [simpits-tech] 16 channel output board is done! [message #1526 is a reply to message #1523 ] |
Thu, 12 August 2010 18:04 |
Ken Drycksback
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On Aug 12, 2010, at 15:02, Ido Dekkers <idekkers@gmail.com> wrote:
> oh, if you have problems finding it - drop me a note
>
> On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 1:01 AM, Ido Dekkers <idekkers@gmail.com> wrote:
> hmm, you should really get OF 4.7,
> it's amazing what dedicated people can do when they do it out of love.
> it a million times better then the boxed one.and a million times better the AF by LP
>
> what LP basically did was take the patches that where available at the time, ignoring some of the best, and pack it in a new box.
> nothing more.
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:55 AM, Gene Buckle <geneb@deltasoft.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Aug 2010, Ido Dekkers wrote:
>
> > gmail said delivery failed so i'm sending it again:
> >
> > regarding OF - yes, the code is still in the hands of the developers, thy
> > just agreeed not to do anything with it whan LP came into the scene.
> > and LO is not that accurate is it?
> >
> I don't know. The only version of Falcon I ever used was the original
> boxed edition. :)
>
> g.
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| Re: [simpits-tech] 16 channel output board is done! [message #1527 is a reply to message #1523 ] |
Thu, 12 August 2010 18:08 |
Ken Drycksback
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I have wanted to try OF for a long time so a pointer where to find it would be great.
Ken
On Aug 12, 2010, at 15:02, Ido Dekkers <idekkers@gmail.com> wrote:
> oh, if you have problems finding it - drop me a note
>
> On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 1:01 AM, Ido Dekkers <idekkers@gmail.com> wrote:
> hmm, you should really get OF 4.7,
> it's amazing what dedicated people can do when they do it out of love.
> it a million times better then the boxed one.and a million times better the AF by LP
>
> what LP basically did was take the patches that where available at the time, ignoring some of the best, and pack it in a new box.
> nothing more.
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:55 AM, Gene Buckle <geneb@deltasoft.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Aug 2010, Ido Dekkers wrote:
>
> > gmail said delivery failed so i'm sending it again:
> >
> > regarding OF - yes, the code is still in the hands of the developers, thy
> > just agreeed not to do anything with it whan LP came into the scene.
> > and LO is not that accurate is it?
> >
> I don't know. The only version of Falcon I ever used was the original
> boxed edition. :)
>
> g.
>
>
> --
> Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
> http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
> http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project
>
> ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
> A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
> http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!
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| Re: [simpits-tech] 16 channel output board is done! [message #1528 is a reply to message #1525 ] |
Fri, 13 August 2010 01:20 |
Ido Dekkers
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actually i was talking about OF : (
you can get it here:
http://www.f4support.com/forums/downloads.php?do=cat&id= 1
DL 4.5 which is the main update, and 4.7 that patches it.
no need for anything else patch wise, even not 108.
if you have problems getting these files form this site let me know and i'll
get my copy up.
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:59 PM, Roy Coates <roy@flightlab.liv.ac.uk>wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Aug 2010, Ido Dekkers wrote:
>
> > oh, if you have problems finding it - drop me a note
>
>
> If it's open - would love the source!
>
>
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> Roy Coates.
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| Re: [simpits-tech] 16 channel output board is done! [message #1529 is a reply to message #1522 ] |
Fri, 13 August 2010 06:14 |
Gene Buckle
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On Fri, 13 Aug 2010, Ido Dekkers wrote:
> hmm, you should really get OF 4.7,
> it's amazing what dedicated people can do when they do it out of love.
> it a million times better then the boxed one.and a million times better the
> AF by LP
>
I'll have to add it to my to-do stack. If nothing else, I could quickly
CAD up an Akers-Barnes(sp?) and finally use that Cougar I bought when it
first came out. :)
> what LP basically did was take the patches that where available at the time,
> ignoring some of the best, and pack it in a new box.
> nothing more.
>
Well that sucks.
One thing that would be interesting to see is a version of Falcon that
provided no interior cockpit at all. It would only provide outside views
with a HUD display that could be moved & resized in order to fit the
combiner glass frame of a physical cockpit. All the code that handled the
"clickable" cockpit could be dropped from the code base entirely.
It would essentially be an "optimized" Falcon built specifically for use
with simulator cockpits.
I really, really, really wish the Oterra guys would release their scenery
engine in such a way that free projects could use it. Can you imagine
how insanely great Falcon would look with the Outerra terrain engine?
g.
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http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project
ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_!
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