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| Re: [simpits-tech] Programming... (was RE: quadrant update...) [message #1374 is a reply to message #1361 ] |
Thu, 27 May 2010 13:24   |
 Sean Galbraith
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Yeah, JB is pretty cool... makes nice GUI apps, and creates standalone
exe's which is nice. For me it was a no brainer since I knew how to
work in BASIC, then I just had to learn the GUI bits... but it does have
its limitations :)
Now I am going to have to download Vis Studio Express.... which I am
sure will put my sim building on hold for a while... till I either
create something meaningful in vb or get bored with it! <lol>
Speaking of sim building (which I heard a rumour that we do that
here...) I finally, after years of procrastinating, got the 7 segs
installed in my APX-100, and ARC-159 panels for the Skyhawk... Now,
it's taken me 7 years.. (and the guy who built the electronics has moved
on from sim building) so how long do you recon it'll take to get the
encoders wired up now?
Oh, and in other news... I'm getting a nice shiny new desktop CNC
Mill/Engraver to play with at work.... big enough to do all my panels,
but small and cheap enough for work to cough up the money for!
SeanG
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Sent: Friday, 28 May 2010 1:04 a.m.
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Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] quadrant update...
On Thu, 27 May 2010, Sean Galbraith wrote:
>>> Surely you mean "Syntax Error in Line 1000"
>>>
>>>
>>> (and of course, in lines 1010 and 1020 too)
>>>
>> I was going easy on him. :)
>>
>> g.
>
> Crazy world this is.. I just got back into writing simple (like me)
> programs in BASIC, using "Just Basic"..... can't remember last time I
> wrote anything :)
>
That's kinda neat Sean. I hadn't heard of that before. If you want to
play with something more powerful, you can download the VB.Net version
of
Visual Studio Express for free.
g.
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| Re: [simpits-tech] quadrant update... [message #1375 is a reply to message #1359 ] |
Thu, 27 May 2010 13:28 |
Sean Galbraith
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> I wrote my first ever code back in 1977 (basic) using a 110 baud tty
> connection to a computer about 150 miles away. The only storage was on
> paper tape - I used miles of the stuff. After all these years, coding
> still excites me. Now that's crazy!
>
Writing something that works, and does what you want is pretty cool ;-)
I've only dabbled, but when something works well I get a big grin on my
face! :)
>
> > Remember I'm a hammer and welder kinda guy, I'm not good at 1's and
0's
>
> I do that too, when the 1's and 0's don't work!
>
I worked with a codie (is that a Kiwi-ism or are software guys known as
codies, softies, cone-heads, the world over?) who used to start hitting
the keyboard and or mouse buttons harder and *harder* and HARDER when
something wasn't working... was really humorous...especially the look I
used to get when I'd make helpful suggestions ;-)
SeanG
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| Re: [simpits-tech] Programming... (was RE: quadrant update...) [message #1376 is a reply to message #1374 ] |
Thu, 27 May 2010 13:33 |
Gene Buckle
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On Fri, 28 May 2010, Sean Galbraith wrote:
> Now I am going to have to download Vis Studio Express.... which I am
> sure will put my sim building on hold for a while... till I either
> create something meaningful in vb or get bored with it! <lol>
>
You'll have fun with it. The .Net assemblies take a lot of work out of
things.
> Speaking of sim building (which I heard a rumour that we do that
> here...) I finally, after years of procrastinating, got the 7 segs
> installed in my APX-100, and ARC-159 panels for the Skyhawk... Now,
> it's taken me 7 years.. (and the guy who built the electronics has moved
> on from sim building) so how long do you recon it'll take to get the
> encoders wired up now?
>
Cool! Pix! Pix! :)
> Oh, and in other news... I'm getting a nice shiny new desktop CNC
> Mill/Engraver to play with at work.... big enough to do all my panels,
> but small and cheap enough for work to cough up the money for!
>
What brand of machine is it?
g.
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| Re: [simpits-tech] Programming... (was RE: quadrant update...) [message #1379 is a reply to message #1378 ] |
Thu, 27 May 2010 14:18 |
Sean Galbraith
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> >> What brand of machine is it?
> >>
> > It's that well known brand "Madeinchina".....
> >
> Hehe. How big is the bed? Does it use a spindle?
The bed is tiny, about 12" x 9" or similar, and I'm not sure about too
much more. It came down to price, work area, price, and software
compatibility, oh and price :)
I hope to have it here for a demo next week, then assuming it does what
I want (I mean.. what the company wants it to do... obviously <rolls
eyes>) then we'll buy it.
On paper the specs are good enough, we plan on doing mostly plastics
with it, and the accuracy and repeatability are good. It is designed
for doing fine engraving, but with some hardware and software upgrades
it can do 3 axis milling. And did I mention that it was cheap? :)
SeanG
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| Re: [simpits-tech] Programming... (was RE: quadrant update...) [message #1380 is a reply to message #1379 ] |
Thu, 27 May 2010 14:26 |
Gene Buckle
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On Fri, 28 May 2010, Sean Galbraith wrote:
>>>> What brand of machine is it?
>>>>
>>> It's that well known brand "Madeinchina".....
>>>
>> Hehe. How big is the bed? Does it use a spindle?
>
> The bed is tiny, about 12" x 9" or similar, and I'm not sure about too
> much more. It came down to price, work area, price, and software
> compatibility, oh and price :)
> I hope to have it here for a demo next week, then assuming it does what
> I want (I mean.. what the company wants it to do... obviously <rolls
> eyes>) then we'll buy it.
> On paper the specs are good enough, we plan on doing mostly plastics
> with it, and the accuracy and repeatability are good. It is designed
> for doing fine engraving, but with some hardware and software upgrades
> it can do 3 axis milling. And did I mention that it was cheap? :)
>
Make sure you can consistantly control the cutter speed - you have to be
really careful with plastics or it will gum up and snap the bit.
g.
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| Re: [simpits-tech] Programming... (was RE: quadrant update...) [message #1381 is a reply to message #1380 ] |
Thu, 27 May 2010 14:33 |
Sean Galbraith
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>> The bed is tiny, about 12" x 9" or similar, and I'm not sure about
too
>> much more. It came down to price, work area, price, and software
>> compatibility, oh and price :)
>> I hope to have it here for a demo next week, then assuming it does
what
>> I want (I mean.. what the company wants it to do... obviously <rolls
>> eyes>) then we'll buy it.
>> On paper the specs are good enough, we plan on doing mostly plastics
>> with it, and the accuracy and repeatability are good. It is designed
>> for doing fine engraving, but with some hardware and software
upgrades
>> it can do 3 axis milling. And did I mention that it was cheap? :)
>>
>Make sure you can consistantly control the cutter speed - you have to
be
>really careful with plastics or it will gum up and snap the bit.
Yup. Feed and spindle speeds.. and using the right cutter <hmm... that
rings a bell>
I've been using a bigger CNC Mill owned by a friend of mine (who is
building an ATR72 in his garage...
http://kickthetyresandlightthefires.blogspot.com/ ) and have done my
learning on his ;-)
SeanG
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| Re: [simpits-tech] Programming... (was RE: quadrant update...) [message #1382 is a reply to message #1381 ] |
Thu, 27 May 2010 14:39 |
Sean Galbraith
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...and actually while talking about my mate with the CNC Mill...
shameless plug for his products time:
http://www.ruscool.co.nz/prod_list.html
SeanG
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Sent: Friday, 28 May 2010 9:34 a.m.
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Subject: Re: [simpits-tech] Programming... (was RE: quadrant update...)
>> The bed is tiny, about 12" x 9" or similar, and I'm not sure about
too
>> much more. It came down to price, work area, price, and software
>> compatibility, oh and price :)
>> I hope to have it here for a demo next week, then assuming it does
what
>> I want (I mean.. what the company wants it to do... obviously <rolls
>> eyes>) then we'll buy it.
>> On paper the specs are good enough, we plan on doing mostly plastics
>> with it, and the accuracy and repeatability are good. It is designed
>> for doing fine engraving, but with some hardware and software
upgrades
>> it can do 3 axis milling. And did I mention that it was cheap? :)
>>
>Make sure you can consistantly control the cutter speed - you have to
be
>really careful with plastics or it will gum up and snap the bit.
Yup. Feed and spindle speeds.. and using the right cutter <hmm... that
rings a bell>
I've been using a bigger CNC Mill owned by a friend of mine (who is
building an ATR72 in his garage...
http://kickthetyresandlightthefires.blogspot.com/ ) and have done my
learning on his ;-)
SeanG
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| Re: [simpits-tech] quadrant update... [message #1387 is a reply to message #1375 ] |
Fri, 28 May 2010 00:52 |
Roy Coates
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On Fri, 28 May 2010, Sean Galbraith wrote:
> I worked with a codie (is that a Kiwi-ism or are software guys known as
> codies, softies, cone-heads, the world over?)
Just "Coders" over here. But given that NZ spawned the BOFH, codie works
for me :)
> who used to start hitting
> the keyboard and or mouse buttons harder and *harder* and HARDER when
> something wasn't working... was really humorous...especially the look I
> used to get when I'd make helpful suggestions ;-)
We had a pretty tightly wound postgrad working here. When he went to
answer the call of nature, we hit Shift-Printscreen, then minimised all
his open windows and set his desktop image to be the screen capture we
just took.
When he came back, no amount of clicking would do anything - obviously!
He completely flipped out and trashed his keyboard and monitor. Our
rolling around laughing probably didn't help :-)
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| Re: [simpits-tech] quadrant update... [message #1391 is a reply to message #1388 ] |
Fri, 28 May 2010 06:31 |
Gene Buckle
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On Fri, 28 May 2010, Roy Coates wrote:
> On Thu, 27 May 2010, Gene Buckle wrote:
>
>> I'd love to have the floor from a dinosaur cage. :) Since each segment is
>> pretty light the 1/4-20 bolts should be just fine.
>
> Dinosaur cage?
>
I'm surprised you've never heard the term. A Dinosaur Cage is what you
call the room where mini and mainframe computers live. They have raised
floors that have nice, cool places to store beer, food and the bodies of
users that become too annoying to be allowed to continue processing
valueable oxygen. :D
>
>>> I wish I could remember half of what I've forgotten about electronics.
>>> There's so much I'd like to do with the stuff now.
>>>
>> Get an Arduino board. They're fun to play with.
>
> dude... I've got so much on my plate right now I barely have time to wipe
> after I crap.
>
Well that's just a priorities problem. :)
>>> Can't wait to see the whole projection system set up. That is gonna be so
>>> impressive. what you need now is a carousel to load your cockpit of choice
>>> into the "arena" ;-)
>>>
>> I'd need a building twice the size I have now to pull THAT particular
>> trick off. :)
>
> Got you thinking though hasn't it... ;-)
>
Yes. And that scares me.
>
>
>> I'm re-thinking (again) the projector support - originally I was going to
>> build a cantilevered platform that the 109F/X would actually sit on, but
>> due to clearance issues, I think I might be better served with some thing
>> different. I think I'll end up with something that looks like this:
>
> And the ballast is.... an F15 cockpit!
>
Actually, no. I'm going to use a thing called "tube sand". It's
literally a 30" long tube of sand about 7" in diameter and they weigh
60lbs each. They're double-bagged so you don't get sand everywhere.
g.
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