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| [simpits-tech] So THAT'S how they set those records.... [message #475] |
Thu, 02 July 2009 21:45  |
 Brian Sikkema
Messages: 57
Registered: January 2009 |
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First, for a little background. For those of you who
aren't aware, the KC-135R holds a variety of
time-to-climb records for a couple of weight classes,
all viewable here:
http://records.fai.org/general_aviation/aircraft.asp?id=965
Just for an example, for the 45,000-60,000kg weight
class (~100k-132k lbs), the record to 15,000m (just
shy of 50,000 feet) is just 8 minutes, 15 seconds -
an AVERAGE of just under 6000fpm! That's completely
retarded fast, if you hadn't noticed....
Anywho, yesterday I was supposed to have a sim along
with another new copilot and an instructor. Due to a
scheduling mixup our instructor couldn't make it...
So there I sit with this other young Lt. Neither of
us is qualified to operate the sim, but the
maintenance guy there basically shrugged his
shoulders and said as long as we left the motion off
and didn't do anything crazy, she was all ours! >:D
Imagine two young copilots getting tossed the keys to
a multi-million dollar high-fidelity sim and being
told "have at it!" :) Fun times, I tell ya.
Anyway, for the first 1 1/2 hours or so we kept
things pretty vanilla, just practicing our approach
and landing work, a few VFR patterns, etc. But then
we decided to have some fun before we hopped out.
So we put it on the runway ready for takeoff, and
dropped it down to a 20,000lb fuel load - for
reference, our max fuel load is 200,000, and we are
supposed to plan to LAND with 20-25k. Min fuel is
14k, emergency is 10. Then we did a static,
takeoff-rated thrust (full throttle, essentially)
30-flap takeoff.....
I damn near wet myself.
That jet got off the ground so fast it made my head
spin. I totally forgot to call for the gear because I
was just in awe of what was happening - and we STILL
climbed out at almost 30 degrees nose high, never
hitting much more than .4 AOA (with 1.0 being a full
stall, .6 being our standard approach AOA).
I never even thought to look at my VSI, I was too
busy saying "Holy !@#$" over and over again in my
head. It was a religious experience, let me tell you....
So then we had to do it again, naturally! :) Still
just as jaw-dropping the second time.
I'm gonna have to do it again someday, with a video
camera in tow... I'd love to actually record the
numbers of just exactly what happened. Back at Altus
they had a recording setup that would take all the
data plus video from several different angles.
Unfortunately I don't think they have that setup here...
Good times, good times. :)
Brian
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| Re: [simpits-tech] So THAT'S how they set those records.... [message #476 is a reply to message #475 ] |
Thu, 02 July 2009 22:51  |
LawnDart
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Registered: March 2009
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Well.. it's official... "You suck" !
Nice experience though... I flew the F/A-18 and EA-6B sims during my
time and the experience lives with me to this day.
Brian Sikkema wrote:
> First, for a little background. For those of you who
> aren't aware, the KC-135R holds a variety of
> time-to-climb records for a couple of weight classes,
> all viewable here:
> http://records.fai.org/general_aviation/aircraft.asp?id=965
>
> Just for an example, for the 45,000-60,000kg weight
> class (~100k-132k lbs), the record to 15,000m (just
> shy of 50,000 feet) is just 8 minutes, 15 seconds -
> an AVERAGE of just under 6000fpm! That's completely
> retarded fast, if you hadn't noticed....
>
> Anywho, yesterday I was supposed to have a sim along
> with another new copilot and an instructor. Due to a
> scheduling mixup our instructor couldn't make it...
> So there I sit with this other young Lt. Neither of
> us is qualified to operate the sim, but the
> maintenance guy there basically shrugged his
> shoulders and said as long as we left the motion off
> and didn't do anything crazy, she was all ours! >:D
> Imagine two young copilots getting tossed the keys to
> a multi-million dollar high-fidelity sim and being
> told "have at it!" :) Fun times, I tell ya.
>
> Anyway, for the first 1 1/2 hours or so we kept
> things pretty vanilla, just practicing our approach
> and landing work, a few VFR patterns, etc. But then
> we decided to have some fun before we hopped out.
>
> So we put it on the runway ready for takeoff, and
> dropped it down to a 20,000lb fuel load - for
> reference, our max fuel load is 200,000, and we are
> supposed to plan to LAND with 20-25k. Min fuel is
> 14k, emergency is 10. Then we did a static,
> takeoff-rated thrust (full throttle, essentially)
> 30-flap takeoff.....
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I damn near wet myself.
>
>
> That jet got off the ground so fast it made my head
> spin. I totally forgot to call for the gear because I
> was just in awe of what was happening - and we STILL
> climbed out at almost 30 degrees nose high, never
> hitting much more than .4 AOA (with 1.0 being a full
> stall, .6 being our standard approach AOA).
>
> I never even thought to look at my VSI, I was too
> busy saying "Holy !@#$" over and over again in my
> head. It was a religious experience, let me tell you....
>
> So then we had to do it again, naturally! :) Still
> just as jaw-dropping the second time.
>
> I'm gonna have to do it again someday, with a video
> camera in tow... I'd love to actually record the
> numbers of just exactly what happened. Back at Altus
> they had a recording setup that would take all the
> data plus video from several different angles.
> Unfortunately I don't think they have that setup here...
>
> Good times, good times. :)
>
> Brian
>
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| Re: [simpits-tech] So THAT'S how they set those records.... [message #477 is a reply to message #476 ] |
Fri, 03 July 2009 05:52 |
Roy Coates
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On Thu, 2 Jul 2009, Ray Sotkiewicz wrote:
> Well.. it's official... "You suck" !
>
Amen to that !!
Nice going Brian - you lucky sod !
--
Roy Coates.
Dept of Engineering.
Liverpool University.
E-Mail: r.coates@liv.ac.uk
Tel: 0151 794 4862
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