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[simpits-tech] How do I create a selective start.... [message #629] Fri, 07 August 2009 02:51 Go to next message
Sean Galbraith  is currently offline Sean Galbraith
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I have been working on making my pit work in FS2004 *and* "Wings over
Europe" which is cool since I can now blow stuff up ;-)
What I want to do is come up with some clever and sexy way of
deciding which sim to start.
The sort of thing I am talking about is; Imagine a USB key, with a
big tag that says "FS9" which you pick of a key peg.. stick into the
front of the panel then hit the "go" button, PC loads the selected sim....
Whether this is a happening thing or not, or even how to actually do
it, I have no idea!

Thoughts, ideas, suggestions?

SeanG

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Re: [simpits-tech] How do I create a selective start.... [message #633 is a reply to message #629 ] Fri, 07 August 2009 05:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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SeanG

I'm not a programmer so I can't help you but I think you have a fantastic
idea and hope that there is a programmer among us who will take this project
und their 'wing'. ;-) It would be extra nice if the USB dongle you speak
of would also limit the processes the computer booted with to only those
needed to run the particular program, thus increasing performance, but
without the dongle your computer would run normal.

Again, what a great idea

Terry

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Subject: [simpits-tech] How do I create a selective start....


>I have been working on making my pit work in FS2004 *and* "Wings over
> Europe" which is cool since I can now blow stuff up ;-)
> What I want to do is come up with some clever and sexy way of
> deciding which sim to start.
> The sort of thing I am talking about is; Imagine a USB key, with a
> big tag that says "FS9" which you pick of a key peg.. stick into the
> front of the panel then hit the "go" button, PC loads the selected sim....
> Whether this is a happening thing or not, or even how to actually do
> it, I have no idea!
>
> Thoughts, ideas, suggestions?
>
> SeanG
>
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Re: [simpits-tech] How do I create a selective start.... [message #634 is a reply to message #633 ] Fri, 07 August 2009 05:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Fri, 7 Aug 2009, TerryM wrote:


I do this kinda thing with batch files.

click on icon for batch1 and it copies the necessary cfg files to where I
need them - then starts the sim.

click on icon for batch2 and it does the same for a different sim setup.


> SeanG
>
> I'm not a programmer so I can't help you but I think you have a fantastic
> idea and hope that there is a programmer among us who will take this project
> und their 'wing'. ;-) It would be extra nice if the USB dongle you speak
> of would also limit the processes the computer booted with to only those
> needed to run the particular program, thus increasing performance, but
> without the dongle your computer would run normal.
>
> Again, what a great idea
>
> Terry
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sean Galbraith" <sean.g@paradise.net.nz>
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> Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 5:51 AM
> Subject: [simpits-tech] How do I create a selective start....
>
>
> >I have been working on making my pit work in FS2004 *and* "Wings over
> > Europe" which is cool since I can now blow stuff up ;-)
> > What I want to do is come up with some clever and sexy way of
> > deciding which sim to start.
> > The sort of thing I am talking about is; Imagine a USB key, with a
> > big tag that says "FS9" which you pick of a key peg.. stick into the
> > front of the panel then hit the "go" button, PC loads the selected sim....
> > Whether this is a happening thing or not, or even how to actually do
> > it, I have no idea!
> >
> > Thoughts, ideas, suggestions?
> >
> > SeanG
> >
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Re: [simpits-tech] How do I create a selective start.... [message #635 is a reply to message #629 ] Fri, 07 August 2009 06:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Fri, 7 Aug 2009, Sean Galbraith wrote:

> I have been working on making my pit work in FS2004 *and* "Wings over
> Europe" which is cool since I can now blow stuff up ;-)
> What I want to do is come up with some clever and sexy way of
> deciding which sim to start.
> The sort of thing I am talking about is; Imagine a USB key, with a
> big tag that says "FS9" which you pick of a key peg.. stick into the
> front of the panel then hit the "go" button, PC loads the selected sim....
> Whether this is a happening thing or not, or even how to actually do
> it, I have no idea!
>

It's actually pretty easy to do that very thing.

The first thing you need to do is plug in the USB key to the port you're
always going to use. You need to make sure that Autorun is enabled for
the drive letter that the USB key maps to. (You can do this via TweakUI)

Then create a batch file in the root directory of the USB key that
contains the following: (call it "startsim.bat")

cd \path to the simulator home directory
<name of simulator program>.exe

You can find both the home path and name of the .exe in the properties of
the shortcut or start menu item that starts the sim.

Next, create a file called autorun.inf, which also needs to be in the root
directory of the USB key. It should have the following lines in it

[autorun]
open=startsim.bat

...and that's it! Stick the key into your sim computer and the autorun
function will start whatever simulator you've set up!

I suppose I should write this up for the simpits.org site. :)

g.


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Re: [simpits-tech] How do I create a selective start.... [message #638 is a reply to message #633 ] Fri, 07 August 2009 06:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Fri, 7 Aug 2009, TerryM wrote:

> SeanG
>
> I'm not a programmer so I can't help you but I think you have a fantastic
> idea and hope that there is a programmer among us who will take this project
> und their 'wing'. ;-) It would be extra nice if the USB dongle you speak
> of would also limit the processes the computer booted with to only those
> needed to run the particular program, thus increasing performance, but
> without the dongle your computer would run normal.
>

I suspect that Sean has a computer dedicated to the task so he can strip
down all the crap by hand if he needs to eke out every last cycle from the
machine.

If you're curious, here is a good article on stripping down Windows XP to
the bare essentials:

http://lifehacker.com/374376/trim-down-windows-to-the-bare-e ssentials

g.

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Re: [simpits-tech] How do I create a selective start.... [message #640 is a reply to message #629 ] Fri, 07 August 2009 08:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Why use a USB key?

You can make a small program that will monitor a few gamecontroller buttons and start a different program for each button.

> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 21:51:35 +1200
> From: sean.g@paradise.net.nz
> To: simpits-tech@simpits.org
> Subject: [simpits-tech] How do I create a selective start....
>
> I have been working on making my pit work in FS2004 *and* "Wings over
> Europe" which is cool since I can now blow stuff up ;-)
> What I want to do is come up with some clever and sexy way of
> deciding which sim to start.
> The sort of thing I am talking about is; Imagine a USB key, with a
> big tag that says "FS9" which you pick of a key peg.. stick into the
> front of the panel then hit the "go" button, PC loads the selected sim....
> Whether this is a happening thing or not, or even how to actually do
> it, I have no idea!
>
> Thoughts, ideas, suggestions?
>
> SeanG
>
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Re: [simpits-tech] How do I create a selective start.... [message #641 is a reply to message #640 ] Fri, 07 August 2009 09:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Fri, 7 Aug 2009, Jeroen Huijben wrote:

>
> Why use a USB key?
>
> You can make a small program that will monitor a few gamecontroller buttons and start a different program for each button.
>

Two reasons that I can think of.

First, using the method I'd described earlier there is no program to write
which can be important for people that don't know how to write software.

Second, plugging in a "key" to start the simulator is much cooler than
just tapping a button. :)

g.

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Re: [simpits-tech] How do I create a selective start.... [message #642 is a reply to message #641 ] Fri, 07 August 2009 09:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Fri, 7 Aug 2009, Gene Buckle wrote:

> Second, plugging in a "key" to start the simulator is much cooler than
> just tapping a button. :)


Especially when that key is kept in a combination safe rigged with
explosives - and protected by laser beams and mad dogs.

Oh - this must all be in a secret room that swmbo knows nothing about...


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Re: [simpits-tech] How do I create a selective start.... [message #643 is a reply to message #641 ] Fri, 07 August 2009 14:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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At 04:04 a.m. 8/08/2009, you wrote:
>On Fri, 7 Aug 2009, Jeroen Huijben wrote:
>
> >
> > Why use a USB key?
> >
> > You can make a small program that will monitor a few
> gamecontroller buttons and start a different program for each button.
> >
>
>Two reasons that I can think of.
>
>First, using the method I'd described earlier there is no program to write
>which can be important for people that don't know how to write software.

Yep that bit is *technically* correct ;-)


>Second, plugging in a "key" to start the simulator is much cooler than
>just tapping a button. :)

And that bit is by far the main reason; cool wins over practical
every time <lol>

SeanG

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Re: [simpits-tech] How do I create a selective start.... [message #644 is a reply to message #634 ] Fri, 07 August 2009 14:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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At 01:42 a.m. 8/08/2009, you wrote:
>On Fri, 7 Aug 2009, TerryM wrote:
>
>
>I do this kinda thing with batch files.
>
>click on icon for batch1 and it copies the necessary cfg files to where I
>need them - then starts the sim.
>
>click on icon for batch2 and it does the same for a different sim setup.


I was thinking something like that, except I don't want to have to
interact with the Sim PC once it has started. In a slight twist on
this theory I thought about having the "startup.bat" file residing on
my server, and having a couple of bat files which re-write that file
(run from the server) which in effect pre-configures the
startup. That way you would run the relevant bat file on the server,
then wander over to the sim and start it, it looks to the server for
the bat file and hey presto starts the selected sim software :)

I still like the "sticking a key into the sim" idea... purely for the
coolness factor. Yes, I am in fact 7 years old... <lol>

SeanG

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Re: [simpits-tech] How do I create a selective start.... [message #645 is a reply to message #638 ] Fri, 07 August 2009 14:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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>I suspect that Sean has a computer dedicated to the task so he can strip
>down all the crap by hand if he needs to eke out every last cycle from the
>machine.
>
>If you're curious, here is a good article on stripping down Windows XP to
>the bare essentials:
>
> http://lifehacker.com/374376/trim-down-windows-to-the-bare-e ssentials

Yep, dedicated PC, Win XP Pro stripped to the point where it probably
can't remember who wrote it, without prompting of course :)

I have experimented with a couple of pre-stripped Win installs, like
"Tiny XP" but I think they may go a little far, and often are missing
some components that I have required.. But it is good fun going
through windoze and gutting out the unnecessary bits.

SeanG

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Re: [simpits-tech] How do I create a selective start.... [message #646 is a reply to message #643 ] Fri, 07 August 2009 14:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Sat, 8 Aug 2009, Sean Galbraith wrote:

> At 04:04 a.m. 8/08/2009, you wrote:
>> On Fri, 7 Aug 2009, Jeroen Huijben wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Why use a USB key?
>>>
>>> You can make a small program that will monitor a few
>> gamecontroller buttons and start a different program for each button.
>>>
>>
>> Two reasons that I can think of.
>>
>> First, using the method I'd described earlier there is no program to write
>> which can be important for people that don't know how to write software.
>
> Yep that bit is *technically* correct ;-)
>
>
>> Second, plugging in a "key" to start the simulator is much cooler than
>> just tapping a button. :)
>
> And that bit is by far the main reason; cool wins over practical
> every time <lol>
>

You could require two USB keys to be inserted at then turned at the same
time. :)

g.


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Re: [simpits-tech] How do I create a selective start.... [message #647 is a reply to message #644 ] Fri, 07 August 2009 14:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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>
> I still like the "sticking a key into the sim" idea... purely for the
> coolness factor. Yes, I am in fact 7 years old... <lol>
>

Don't worry Sean. You're in good company. I don't think there's a one of
us over 12 here. :)

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Re: [simpits-tech] How do I create a selective start.... [message #648 is a reply to message #635 ] Fri, 07 August 2009 14:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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>It's actually pretty easy to do that very thing.
>
>The first thing you need to do is plug in the USB key to the port you're
>always going to use. You need to make sure that Autorun is enabled for
>the drive letter that the USB key maps to. (You can do this via TweakUI)
>
>Then create a batch file in the root directory of the USB key that
>contains the following: (call it "startsim.bat")
>
>cd \path to the simulator home directory
><name of simulator program>.exe
>
>You can find both the home path and name of the .exe in the properties of
>the shortcut or start menu item that starts the sim.
>
>Next, create a file called autorun.inf, which also needs to be in the root
>directory of the USB key. It should have the following lines in it
>
>[autorun]
>open=startsim.bat
>
>...and that's it! Stick the key into your sim computer and the autorun
>function will start whatever simulator you've set up!
>
>I suppose I should write this up for the simpits.org site. :)

That's pretty cool, hadn't though of the autorun idea! Means I could
get two bites at it; First, add a shortcut to startsim.bat into the
startup group (or use group policy to run it) so that if the key is
in there it will start the sim automagically on windows start, and
secondly, by poking the key in with the PC running will start the
chosen sim.... Now that *is* cool!

Righto, off to write a batch file and put it on a USB key!

SeanG

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Re: [simpits-tech] How do I create a selective start.... [message #649 is a reply to message #646 ] Fri, 07 August 2009 14:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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> > And that bit is by far the main reason; cool wins over practical
> > every time <lol>
> >
>
>You could require two USB keys to be inserted at then turned at the same
>time. :)

Yeah, but then I'd need flashing lights, sirens and a loudspeaker
with some bloke's ominous voice booming over it... just in case you
get it wrong :)

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Re: [simpits-tech] How do I create a selective start.... [message #650 is a reply to message #649 ] Fri, 07 August 2009 14:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Sat, 8 Aug 2009, Sean Galbraith wrote:

>
>>> And that bit is by far the main reason; cool wins over practical
>>> every time <lol>
>>>
>>
>> You could require two USB keys to be inserted at then turned at the same
>> time. :)
>
> Yeah, but then I'd need flashing lights, sirens and a loudspeaker
> with some bloke's ominous voice booming over it... just in case you
> get it wrong :)
>
It's not like you've got anything better to do. :)

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Re: [simpits-tech] How do I create a selective start.... [message #651 is a reply to message #644 ] Fri, 07 August 2009 14:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Sat, 8 Aug 2009, Sean Galbraith wrote:

> I still like the "sticking a key into the sim" idea... purely for the
> coolness factor. Yes, I am in fact 7 years old... <lol>



I'll be 7 next year.... maybe.


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Re: [simpits-tech] How do I create a selective start.... [message #652 is a reply to message #648 ] Fri, 07 August 2009 14:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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>
> That's pretty cool, hadn't though of the autorun idea! Means I could
> get two bites at it; First, add a shortcut to startsim.bat into the
> startup group (or use group policy to run it) so that if the key is
> in there it will start the sim automagically on windows start, and
> secondly, by poking the key in with the PC running will start the
> chosen sim.... Now that *is* cool!
>

Sean, can you email me the details of the group policy/auto start change
so I can incorporate it into the howto?

tnx!

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Re: [simpits-tech] How do I create a selective start.... [message #653 is a reply to message #651 ] Fri, 07 August 2009 15:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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At 10:44 a.m. 8/08/2009, you wrote:
>On Sat, 8 Aug 2009, Sean Galbraith wrote:
>
> > I still like the "sticking a key into the sim" idea... purely for the
> > coolness factor. Yes, I am in fact 7 years old... <lol>
>
>
>
>I'll be 7 next year.... maybe.

Now for the really scary part.... The guys at work got me a cake for
my birthday this year... with a Number "7" Candle on it.... I guess
it's obvious to *everyone* lmao

SeanG

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Re: [simpits-tech] How do I create a selective start.... [message #654 is a reply to message #652 ] Fri, 07 August 2009 15:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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At 09:40 a.m. 8/08/2009, you wrote:
> >
> > That's pretty cool, hadn't though of the autorun idea! Means I could
> > get two bites at it; First, add a shortcut to startsim.bat into the
> > startup group (or use group policy to run it) so that if the key is
> > in there it will start the sim automagically on windows start, and
> > secondly, by poking the key in with the PC running will start the
> > chosen sim.... Now that *is* cool!
> >
>
>Sean, can you email me the details of the group policy/auto start change
>so I can incorporate it into the howto?
>
>tnx!

Sure... I think it only works in XP Pro though.... My IT monkey from
work is coming over to fly the sim today, and in payment he has to
show me how to do the group policy thing... We use it at work to copy
out files prior to the sims starting, then again to run all the
apps. I'll get the details in a step-by-step howto and email you.

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Re: [simpits-tech] How do I create a selective start.... [message #655 is a reply to message #654 ] Fri, 07 August 2009 18:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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> Sure... I think it only works in XP Pro though.... My IT monkey from
> work is coming over to fly the sim today, and in payment he has to
> show me how to do the group policy thing... We use it at work to copy
> out files prior to the sims starting, then again to run all the
> apps. I'll get the details in a step-by-step howto and email you.
>
Thanks!

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Re: [simpits-tech] How do I create a selective start.... [message #656 is a reply to message #629 ] Sat, 08 August 2009 06:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i've been switching sim format for a while now, mine are all running on
different computers ready to go, the switch is to my monitors, i have a
monitor switch that handles three computers. i can switch from fs9 to fsx to
falcon 4 in a flick of switch from my switch box.
i just preload all games before i start, then switch to my game format as I
wish. by the way iam running three 22"for my views, two 15" for my gps and
maps and one 32" for my instrument panel, all lcd's. All three computers are
running amd 64dual core 5ghz with 4gb memory, dual video card 512's with
dual dvi or vga output with 500 watts power source, with a lot of electric
fans to cool my room. my auxilary computer is on lan with wideview to handle
the GPS and Map 15" display.

Works fine, no latency, FPS running ground from 10 to 15fps, aloft around
20-30fps. All sliders at ultra high.

On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 5:51 AM, Sean Galbraith <sean.g@paradise.net.nz>wrote:

> I have been working on making my pit work in FS2004 *and* "Wings over
> Europe" which is cool since I can now blow stuff up ;-)
> What I want to do is come up with some clever and sexy way of
> deciding which sim to start.
> The sort of thing I am talking about is; Imagine a USB key, with a
> big tag that says "FS9" which you pick of a key peg.. stick into the
> front of the panel then hit the "go" button, PC loads the selected sim....
> Whether this is a happening thing or not, or even how to actually do
> it, I have no idea!
>
> Thoughts, ideas, suggestions?
>
> SeanG
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Re: [simpits-tech] How do I create a selective start.... [message #657 is a reply to message #653 ] Sat, 08 August 2009 18:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Sat, 8 Aug 2009, Sean Galbraith wrote:

> >I'll be 7 next year.... maybe.
>
> Now for the really scary part.... The guys at work got me a cake for
> my birthday this year... with a Number "7" Candle on it.... I guess
> it's obvious to *everyone* lmao


I WANT CAKE TOO !

(stamps foot and pouts horribly)


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Re: [simpits-tech] How do I create a selective start.... [message #658 is a reply to message #657 ] Sat, 08 August 2009 19:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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> > Now for the really scary part.... The guys at work got me a cake for
> > my birthday this year... with a Number "7" Candle on it.... I guess
> > it's obvious to *everyone* lmao
>
>
>I WANT CAKE TOO !
>
>(stamps foot and pouts horribly)

<Puts hands on hips and look all "grown up"> Now look Roy, all you
have to do to get treatment like this is; Move to the other side of
the world, and work with a bunch of complete head cases... easy really :)

SeanG

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Re: [simpits-tech] How do I create a selective start.... [message #659 is a reply to message #657 ] Sat, 08 August 2009 19:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Even MORE fun if you could create an auto-loading script that changes
your default aircraft!

"Honey, have you seen my 737 keys?"



Roy Coates wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Aug 2009, Sean Galbraith wrote:
>
>
>>> I'll be 7 next year.... maybe.
>>>
>> Now for the really scary part.... The guys at work got me a cake for
>> my birthday this year... with a Number "7" Candle on it.... I guess
>> it's obvious to *everyone* lmao
>>
>
>
> I WANT CAKE TOO !
>
> (stamps foot and pouts horribly)
>
>
> --
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> Roy Coates.
> Dept of Engineering.
> Liverpool University.
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Re: [simpits-tech] How do I create a selective start.... [message #660 is a reply to message #659 ] Sat, 08 August 2009 19:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: [simpits-tech] How do I create a selective start.... [message #661 is a reply to message #658 ] Sat, 08 August 2009 19:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hmmmmm,

Roy,

You should check here.

http://www.nait.ca/program_home_12979.htm

I think you would be a very valuable asset here in the Colonies.

Home of the Avro Arrow, Canadarm, etc, and so on.(and the paper clip and
Zipper as well, ha ha)

Screaming for new talent. Don't wait till you get old Roy. We need you now.
I don't think you even need a Passport to come here!

R





----- Original Message -----
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>
>> > Now for the really scary part.... The guys at work got me a cake for
>> > my birthday this year... with a Number "7" Candle on it.... I guess
>> > it's obvious to *everyone* lmao
>>
>>
>>I WANT CAKE TOO !
>>
>>(stamps foot and pouts horribly)
>
> <Puts hands on hips and look all "grown up"> Now look Roy, all you
> have to do to get treatment like this is; Move to the other side of
> the world, and work with a bunch of complete head cases... easy really :)
>
> SeanG
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Re: [simpits-tech] How do I create a selective start.... [message #662 is a reply to message #658 ] Sat, 08 August 2009 22:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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> <Puts hands on hips and look all "grown up"> Now look Roy, all you
> have to do to get treatment like this is; Move to the other side of
> the world, and work with a bunch of complete head cases... easy really :)
>
Hey! I resemble that remark...


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Re: [simpits-tech] How do I create a selective start.... [message #663 is a reply to message #659 ] Sat, 08 August 2009 22:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Sat, 8 Aug 2009, Ray Sotkiewicz wrote:

> Even MORE fun if you could create an auto-loading script that changes your
> default aircraft!
>

Actually, not a bad idea. I don't know if the "standard" flight sims take
command line parameters though.

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Re: [simpits-tech] How do I create a selective start.... [message #664 is a reply to message #663 ] Sat, 08 August 2009 22:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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At 05:21 p.m. 9/08/2009, you wrote:
>On Sat, 8 Aug 2009, Ray Sotkiewicz wrote:
>
> > Even MORE fun if you could create an auto-loading script that changes your
> > default aircraft!
> >
>
>Actually, not a bad idea. I don't know if the "standard" flight sims take
>command line parameters though.

Easy peesy. You can, at least in FS9, specify the config file to
use on startup, at the command line... So you have a couple of
config files saved, one of which is for sim use.. so yep, it could be
your "737 Keys".... and idea which I like... a lot :)

SeanG

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Re: [simpits-tech] How do I create a selective start.... [message #665 is a reply to message #658 ] Sun, 09 August 2009 03:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Sun, 9 Aug 2009, Sean Galbraith wrote:

> <Puts hands on hips and look all "grown up"> Now look Roy, all you
> have to do to get treatment like this is; Move to the other side of
> the world, and work with a bunch of complete head cases... easy really :)

Hey, I'm working on it!


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Re: [simpits-tech] How do I create a selective start.... [message #666 is a reply to message #661 ] Sun, 09 August 2009 03:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Sat, 8 Aug 2009, Rick Davis wrote:

> Roy,
> You should check here.
> http://www.nait.ca/program_home_12979.htm
>
> I think you would be a very valuable asset here in the Colonies.
>
> Home of the Avro Arrow, Canadarm, etc, and so on.(and the paper clip and
> Zipper as well, ha ha)
>
> Screaming for new talent. Don't wait till you get old Roy. We need you now.
> I don't think you even need a Passport to come here!


Canada has a fine aviation history that is often overshadowed, but I was
thinking more of this place...

http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/ato /tc/

Roy.

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WOW,

Can't top that one.


----- Original Message -----
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> On Sat, 8 Aug 2009, Rick Davis wrote:
>
>> Roy,
>> You should check here.
>> http://www.nait.ca/program_home_12979.htm
>>
>> I think you would be a very valuable asset here in the Colonies.
>>
>> Home of the Avro Arrow, Canadarm, etc, and so on.(and the paper clip and
>> Zipper as well, ha ha)
>>
>> Screaming for new talent. Don't wait till you get old Roy. We need you
>> now.
>> I don't think you even need a Passport to come here!
>
>
> Canada has a fine aviation history that is often overshadowed, but I was
> thinking more of this place...
>
> http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/ato /tc/
>
> Roy.
>
> --
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> Dept of Engineering.
> Liverpool University.
> E-Mail: r.coates@liv.ac.uk
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> meter.
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Re: [simpits-tech] How do I create a selective start.... [message #668 is a reply to message #667 ] Sun, 09 August 2009 11:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bill wrote

On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 5:37 AM, Rick Davis <rd@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:

> WOW,
>
> Can't top that one.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Roy Coates" <roy@flightlab.liv.ac.uk>
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>
>
Roy you won't get any cake but you will get a phone call manana~

so eat and be merry for tomorrow ya work ! (;

Bazooka







>
> > On Sat, 8 Aug 2009, Rick Davis wrote:
> >
> >> Roy,
> >> You should check here.
> >> http://www.nait.ca/program_home_12979.htm
> >>
> >> I think you would be a very valuable asset here in the Colonies.
> >>
> >> Home of the Avro Arrow, Canadarm, etc, and so on.(and the paper clip and
> >> Zipper as well, ha ha)
> >>
> >> Screaming for new talent. Don't wait till you get old Roy. We need you
> >> now.
> >> I don't think you even need a Passport to come here!
> >
> >
> > Canada has a fine aviation history that is often overshadowed, but I was
> > thinking more of this place...
> >
> > http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/ato /tc/
> >
> > Roy.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Roy Coates.
> > Dept of Engineering.
> > Liverpool University.
> > E-Mail: r.coates@liv.ac.uk
> > Tel: 0151 794 4862
> >
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> > meter.
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On Sun, 9 Aug 2009, Rick Davis wrote:

> WOW,
>
> Can't top that one.

Heh. Already got a few contacts in there, it looks promising.


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On Sun, 9 Aug 2009, William Segal wrote:

> Bill wrote
>
> Roy you won't get any cake but you will get a phone call manana~
>
> so eat and be merry for tomorrow ya work ! (;


Hey, I work every day !

Just finished grafting microswitches onto the flap control assembly and
twin slider pots onto the throttles.

Getting there !


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On Mon, 10 Aug 2009, Roy Coates wrote:

> On Sun, 9 Aug 2009, Rick Davis wrote:
>
>> WOW,
>>
>> Can't top that one.
>
> Heh. Already got a few contacts in there, it looks promising.
>
Awesome. :)

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On Mon, 10 Aug 2009, Gene Buckle wrote:

> > Heh. Already got a few contacts in there, it looks promising.
> >
> Awesome. :)


I'll have you all cowering in your bunkers.... muhahahahaaaaa


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Re: [simpits-tech] How do I create a selective start.... [message #673 is a reply to message #672 ] Mon, 10 August 2009 14:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sean Galbraith  is currently offline Sean Galbraith
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Well chaps.. it works!

I can now plug in a USB Key (Yep.. I now call them my "Skyhawk Keys"...)
and start my sim in either FS9, Wings Over Europe or "Maintenance".

The final, easiest solution was to write a really simple bat file, and
place it in the Startup folder. The bat file looks at the USB Key (if
it's there) for a specific file. If it finds that file it starts the
relevant sim.
The bat file is really *really* simple;

*========================================*
@echo off
f:
cd\
if exist maint.txt goto maint
if exist WOE.txt goto woe

:fs9
echo Starting FS2004
c:
cd\
cd\fs9
fs9.exe
goto end

:woe
echo Starting Wings Over Europe
c:
cd\
cd "Wings Over Europe"
WOE.exe
goto end

:Maint
echo "Starting in Maint Mode"

:end

*========================================*
On the USB key I have a file called woe.txt so on startup the bat file
runs, finds woe.bat and jumps to the bit which runs Wings Over Europe.
I also have another key with maint.bat on it, which starts just the PC,
and no sim software.
With no USB key inserted, the sim starts in FS9, which is what I will
normally be running.

I am really pleased with the result, now I just need to design and build
a Cool setup for the key, probably in a panel with loads of flashing
lights and stuff :)

SeanG
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Re: [simpits-tech] How do I create a selective start.... [message #674 is a reply to message #673 ] Mon, 10 August 2009 15:22 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Roy Coates  is currently offline Roy Coates
Messages: 438
Registered: January 2009
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On Tue, 11 Aug 2009, Sean Galbraith wrote:


Hmm... why not just drop out to 'maint' mode if there's no USB key.


Happy 7th birthday by the way :-)


> Well chaps.. it works!
>
> I can now plug in a USB Key (Yep.. I now call them my "Skyhawk Keys"...)
> and start my sim in either FS9, Wings Over Europe or "Maintenance".
>
> The final, easiest solution was to write a really simple bat file, and
> place it in the Startup folder. The bat file looks at the USB Key (if
> it's there) for a specific file. If it finds that file it starts the
> relevant sim.
> The bat file is really *really* simple;
>
> *========================================*
> @echo off
> f:
> cd\
> if exist maint.txt goto maint
> if exist WOE.txt goto woe
>
> :fs9
> echo Starting FS2004
> c:
> cd\
> cd\fs9
> fs9.exe
> goto end
>
> :woe
> echo Starting Wings Over Europe
> c:
> cd\
> cd "Wings Over Europe"
> WOE.exe
> goto end
>
> :Maint
> echo "Starting in Maint Mode"
>
> :end
>
> *========================================*
> On the USB key I have a file called woe.txt so on startup the bat file
> runs, finds woe.bat and jumps to the bit which runs Wings Over Europe.
> I also have another key with maint.bat on it, which starts just the PC,
> and no sim software.
> With no USB key inserted, the sim starts in FS9, which is what I will
> normally be running.
>
> I am really pleased with the result, now I just need to design and build
> a Cool setup for the key, probably in a panel with loads of flashing
> lights and stuff :)
>
> SeanG
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