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[simpits-tech] new weapons package for FSX looks outstanding! [message #2047] Sat, 05 February 2011 22:42 Go to next message
Justin Messenger  is currently offline Justin Messenger
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I think this is going to be the wave of the future for some of us cockpit
builders.
http://www.vrsimulations.com/tacpack.htm
 
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Re: [simpits-tech] new weapons package for FSX looks outstanding! [message #2048 is a reply to message #2047 ] Sat, 05 February 2011 22:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have high hopes for this package.. especially since they are also
publishing an SDK to let you do your own configuring...

On 2/5/2011 10:42 PM, Justin Messenger wrote:
> I think this is going to be the wave of the future for some of us
> cockpit builders.
> http://www.vrsimulations.com/tacpack.htm
>
> www.SimAdventure.com <http://www.simadventure.com/>
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Re: [simpits-tech] new weapons package for FSX looks outstanding! [message #2049 is a reply to message #2047 ] Sun, 06 February 2011 08:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Sat, 5 Feb 2011, Justin Messenger wrote:

> I think this is going to be the wave of the future for some of us cockpit
> builders.
> http://www.vrsimulations.com/tacpack.htm

Oh. My.

g.

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Re: [simpits-tech] new weapons package for FSX looks outstanding! [message #2051 is a reply to message #2049 ] Sun, 06 February 2011 19:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Imagine all the hell that will be unleashed in these FSX networked games
with all kinds of aircraft and ATC.

There's gonna be an A-Hole or two flying in and around major airport blowing
shit up.

Jay

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On Sat, 5 Feb 2011, Justin Messenger wrote:

> I think this is going to be the wave of the future for some of us
> cockpit builders.
> http://www.vrsimulations.com/tacpack.htm

Oh. My.

g.

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Re: [simpits-tech] new weapons package for FSX looks outstanding! [message #2052 is a reply to message #2051 ] Mon, 07 February 2011 06:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Sun, 6 Feb 2011, Joseph Fagner wrote:

> Imagine all the hell that will be unleashed in these FSX networked games
> with all kinds of aircraft and ATC.
>
> There's gonna be an A-Hole or two flying in and around major airport blowing
> shit up.
>
I doubt that. I suspect that their multi-player wouldn't play nice with
the existing VATSIM network. Even if it does, only folks that have
purchased the add-on would see the results from ordinance releases.

g.


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Re: [simpits-tech] My Latest Descent into Madness [message #2053 is a reply to message #2052 ] Mon, 07 February 2011 23:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I felt this project important enough to modifiy one of my breadboards. This is my FSUIP --> USP --> Arduino --> [Something hopefuly easy?] --> Aircore Motor (Whee!)

As you can see from the pic, the distance between the Arduino and the Aircore motor is a painfully vast and unforgiving waste-land..... I've crossed greater distances through the eye of a needle, but none so unfamiliar.......


http://anthonyscott.zenfolio.com/img/s1/v21/p920629136.jpg


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Re: [simpits-tech] My Latest Descent into Madness [message #2054 is a reply to message #2053 ] Tue, 08 February 2011 06:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Tue, 8 Feb 2011, raysot@comcast.net wrote:

> I felt this project important enough to modifiy one of my breadboards.
> This is my FSUIP --> USP --> Arduino --> [Something hopefuly easy?] -->
> Aircore Motor (Whee!)
>
> As you can see from the pic, the distance between the Arduino and the
> Aircore motor is a painfully vast and unforgiving waste-land..... I've
> crossed greater distances through the eye of a needle, but none so
> unfamiliar.......
>
>
> http://anthonyscott.zenfolio.com/img/s1/v21/p920629136.jpg
>

Very nice Ray! Shame about the breadboard though. :)

I would suggest you check out this thread:
http://www.arduino.cc/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1271537811

The guy is using an L293D chip to drive his air core motor with. Note
that if you have a copy of either BSAI or BRFS, there are schematics in
both books for driving air cores with a micro controller. Mike likes
PICs, but the connections are essentially identical for Atmel uCs.
(different pins)

g.


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Re: [simpits-tech] Arduino? [message #2055 is a reply to message #2052 ] Thu, 10 February 2011 13:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm having doubts about using Arduino to drive Aircore gauges from the FSUIPC libraries.

The card is installed and I have to Arduino software libraries installed and a basic project loaded to make an LED blink. It can blink like there's no tomorrow (5ms crest/valley 50% duty cycle) My interface to the aircores will be via the CS8190 Pulse to SOS/COS driver IC. (Much like a tach)

The problem is, I see no way to integrate the FSUIPC libraries to the Arduino Development Environment, and likewise, no way to integrate the Arduino Libraries to something Like Visual Studio.

So far all I can do is create/load a Sketch file onto the card and change the blink rate.

Even if I used a H-Bridge IC to drive the aircores... How could I send FSUIPC data to the card? I'll drop by the Arduino forums as well....


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Re: [simpits-tech] Arduino? [message #2056 is a reply to message #2055 ] Thu, 10 February 2011 18:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Thu, 10 Feb 2011, raysot@comcast.net wrote:

>
>
>
> The card is installed and I have to Arduino software libraries installed
> and a basic project loaded to make an LED blink. It can blink like
> there's no tomorrow (5ms crest/valley 50% duty cycle) My interface to
> the aircores will be via the CS8190 Pulse to SOS/COS driver IC. (Much
> like a tach)
>
> The problem is, I see no way to integrate the FSUIPC libraries to the
> Arduino Development Environment, and likewise, no way to integrate the
> Arduino Libraries to something Like Visual Studio.
>
> So far all I can do is create/load a Sketch file onto the card and
> change the blink rate.
>
> Even if I used a H-Bridge IC to drive the aircores... How could I send
> FSUIPC data to the card? I'll drop by the Arduino forums as well....

Ray, you'll do it serially. The FTDI serial chip on the Arduino board
will have a 0% error rate at a 250,000 bits per second data rate.

You'll write FSUIPC code to pump data to the Arduino - that's what I do
for the light driver I did.

g.

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Re: [simpits-tech] Arduino? [message #2057 is a reply to message #2056 ] Thu, 10 February 2011 18:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yep... just found it....

Serial.Read();

:-)

It's back on!



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On Thu, 10 Feb 2011, raysot@comcast.net wrote:

>
>
>
> The card is installed and I have to Arduino software libraries installed
> and a basic project loaded to make an LED blink. It can blink like
> there's no tomorrow (5ms crest/valley 50% duty cycle) My interface to
> the aircores will be via the CS8190 Pulse to SOS/COS driver IC. (Much
> like a tach)
>
> The problem is, I see no way to integrate the FSUIPC libraries to the
> Arduino Development Environment, and likewise, no way to integrate the
> Arduino Libraries to something Like Visual Studio.
>
> So far all I can do is create/load a Sketch file onto the card and
> change the blink rate.
>
> Even if I used a H-Bridge IC to drive the aircores... How could I send
> FSUIPC data to the card? I'll drop by the Arduino forums as well....

Ray, you'll do it serially. The FTDI serial chip on the Arduino board
will have a 0% error rate at a 250,000 bits per second data rate.

You'll write FSUIPC code to pump data to the Arduino - that's what I do
for the light driver I did.

g.

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Re: [simpits-tech] Arduino? [message #2058 is a reply to message #2057 ] Fri, 11 February 2011 05:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Fri, 11 Feb 2011, raysot@comcast.net wrote:

> Yep... just found it....
>
> Serial.Read();
>
> :-)
>
> It's back on!
>
\o/

Where did you find the CS8190 chip? How does the price compare to an
H-bridge chip?

g.

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Re: [simpits-tech] Arduino? [message #2059 is a reply to message #2058 ] Fri, 11 February 2011 09:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mouser.com (They even had a 16-pin DIP package...)


I think they were $2.59 or something...


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On Fri, 11 Feb 2011, raysot@comcast.net wrote:

> Yep... just found it....
>
> Serial.Read();
>
> :-)
>
> It's back on!
>
\o/

Where did you find the CS8190 chip? How does the price compare to an
H-bridge chip?

g.

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Re: [simpits-tech] Arduino? [message #2060 is a reply to message #2059 ] Fri, 11 February 2011 10:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Fri, 11 Feb 2011, raysot@comcast.net wrote:

>
> Mouser.com (They even had a 16-pin DIP package...)
>
>
> I think they were $2.59 or something...
>
Thanks Ray. I'm wondering how much easier it would be to run multiples of
those as opposed to the H-bridge chips...

g.

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Re: [simpits-tech] Arduino? [message #2061 is a reply to message #2060 ] Fri, 11 February 2011 12:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have the chip breadboarded and working(somewhat); When I power it up the aircore moves. but so far no response yet in following the digital freq set by arduino. Arduino is putting out a nice 0/+5v square wave...

I am going to Fryes tonight to pick up the other discrete components. I was all out of .1uf caps and the circuit calls for a few of them to work with the ICs internal charge pump.

I suspect that once I get the few R/C circuits added and a bit more tweaking, I'll have an aircore that's responsive.

...then it's beer-time!






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On Fri, 11 Feb 2011, raysot@comcast.net wrote:

>
> Mouser.com (They even had a 16-pin DIP package...)
>
>
> I think they were $2.59 or something...
>
Thanks Ray. I'm wondering how much easier it would be to run multiples of
those as opposed to the H-bridge chips...

g.

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Re: [simpits-tech] Arduino? [message #2062 is a reply to message #2061 ] Fri, 11 February 2011 14:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Fri, 11 Feb 2011, raysot@comcast.net wrote:

> I have the chip breadboarded and working(somewhat); When I power it up
> the aircore moves. but so far no response yet in following the digital
> freq set by arduino. Arduino is putting out a nice 0/+5v square wave...
>
So you're driving the chip and not getting anything out of it?

> I am going to Fryes tonight to pick up the other discrete components. I
> was all out of .1uf caps and the circuit calls for a few of them to work
> with the ICs internal charge pump.
>
> I suspect that once I get the few R/C circuits added and a bit more
> tweaking, I'll have an aircore that's responsive.
>
Hopefully. :)


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[simpits-tech] Arduino: Uber-Good News! [message #2063 is a reply to message #2062 ] Fri, 11 February 2011 23:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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After a run to Frys, and some experimenting with R/C values in the
charge-pump & Trim circuit, I can get about 300 degrees of needle
deflection by cycling a digital output with timings between 100ms and 7ms.

There are still some resolution issues but I think the major hurdles
have been cleared.

One CS8190 chip gave up his little life for the cause. I think it's
called 'Thermal Runaway'? (9 left :-)

I'm going to do a short video on it so folks can see this...


On 2/11/2011 2:25 PM, Gene Buckle wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Feb 2011, raysot@comcast.net wrote:
>
>> I have the chip breadboarded and working(somewhat); When I power it up
>> the aircore moves. but so far no response yet in following the digital
>> freq set by arduino. Arduino is putting out a nice 0/+5v square wave...
>>
> So you're driving the chip and not getting anything out of it?
>
>> I am going to Fryes tonight to pick up the other discrete components. I
>> was all out of .1uf caps and the circuit calls for a few of them to work
>> with the ICs internal charge pump.
>>
>> I suspect that once I get the few R/C circuits added and a bit more
>> tweaking, I'll have an aircore that's responsive.
>>
> Hopefully. :)
>
>

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[simpits-tech] Arduino Success [message #2064 is a reply to message #2062 ] Sat, 12 February 2011 01:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJdKCXZ3-A4

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On 2/11/2011 2:25 PM, Gene Buckle wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Feb 2011, raysot@comcast.net wrote:
>
>> I have the chip breadboarded and working(somewhat); When I power it up
>> the aircore moves. but so far no response yet in following the digital
>> freq set by arduino. Arduino is putting out a nice 0/+5v square wave...
>>
> So you're driving the chip and not getting anything out of it?
>
>> I am going to Fryes tonight to pick up the other discrete components. I
>> was all out of .1uf caps and the circuit calls for a few of them to work
>> with the ICs internal charge pump.
>>
>> I suspect that once I get the few R/C circuits added and a bit more
>> tweaking, I'll have an aircore that's responsive.
>>
> Hopefully. :)
>
>

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Re: [simpits-tech] Arduino: Uber-Good News! [message #2065 is a reply to message #2063 ] Sat, 12 February 2011 22:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Fri, 11 Feb 2011, Ray Sotkiewicz wrote:

> After a run to Frys, and some experimenting with R/C values in the
> charge-pump & Trim circuit, I can get about 300 degrees of needle
> deflection by cycling a digital output with timings between 100ms and 7ms.
>
> There are still some resolution issues but I think the major hurdles
> have been cleared.
>
> One CS8190 chip gave up his little life for the cause. I think it's
> called 'Thermal Runaway'? (9 left :-)
>

Congrats!

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Re: [simpits-tech] Arduino Success [message #2066 is a reply to message #2064 ] Sat, 12 February 2011 22:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Sat, 12 Feb 2011, Ray Sotkiewicz wrote:

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJdKCXZ3-A4
>
\o/

g.

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[simpits-tech] Arduino, Part Deaux... [message #2071 is a reply to message #2060 ] Mon, 21 February 2011 17:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Although I smoked my first Arduino card, I'm not giving up on this yet...

After some research, I was able to pick up some Serial-to-Aircore driver ICs...

This may pan out to be a very nice solution. Read a Address-Byte/Data-Byte from the USB port, determine which chip the data belongs to, then clock in the data byte.

(At least that's the theory... Should have a new Arduino card soon...




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On Fri, 11 Feb 2011, raysot@comcast.net wrote:

>
> Mouser.com (They even had a 16-pin DIP package...)
>
>
> I think they were $2.59 or something...
>
Thanks Ray. I'm wondering how much easier it would be to run multiples of
those as opposed to the H-bridge chips...

g.

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Re: [simpits-tech] Arduino, Part Deaux... [message #2072 is a reply to message #2071 ] Mon, 21 February 2011 17:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Tue, 22 Feb 2011, raysot@comcast.net wrote:

>
> Although I smoked my first Arduino card, I'm not giving up on this yet...
>
How the hell did you manage that Ray? Good god man, did you feed it AC or
something? :)

> After some research, I was able to pick up some Serial-to-Aircore driver
> ICs...
>
Boy you're going to fight using those H-bridges to the very end,
ain'tcha? :)

g.

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Re: [simpits-tech] Arduino, Part Deaux... [message #2075 is a reply to message #2072 ] Tue, 22 February 2011 12:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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For data to work, it must be beautiful :-)

Yep! Gonna fight those H-Bridges every step of the way.

The Serial link seems a more elegant solution. I could [probably] get the arduino to work supporting multiple h-bridges but I think the timing issues would really be a problem (for me) since the Arduino is a single-threaded system.

In my upcoming attempt I'm excited about grabbing a byte, then sending it to the appropriate aircore driver. Seems simple...

(As long as I don't smoke check Arduino #2 things should go much better!)



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On Tue, 22 Feb 2011, raysot@comcast.net wrote:

>
> Although I smoked my first Arduino card, I'm not giving up on this yet...
>
How the hell did you manage that Ray? Good god man, did you feed it AC or
something? :)

> After some research, I was able to pick up some Serial-to-Aircore driver
> ICs...
>
Boy you're going to fight using those H-bridges to the very end,
ain'tcha? :)

g.

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Re: [simpits-tech] Arduino, Part Deaux... [message #2076 is a reply to message #2075 ] Tue, 22 February 2011 12:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Tue, 22 Feb 2011, raysot@comcast.net wrote:

>
> For data to work, it must be beautiful :-)
>
> Yep! Gonna fight those H-Bridges every step of the way.
>
> The Serial link seems a more elegant solution. I could [probably] get
> the arduino to work supporting multiple h-bridges but I think the timing
> issues would really be a problem (for me) since the Arduino is a
> single-threaded system.
>
Well keep in mind that if memory serves, you don't need multiple threads
to drive those things. You set a value on the port and it'll stay there
until you tell it otherwise. I could be wrong of course - I haven't had
time to play with them yet.

What chip did you find for driving the air-cores serially?

g.
> In my upcoming attempt I'm excited about grabbing a byte, then sending
> it to the appropriate aircore driver. Seems simple...
>
> (As long as I don't smoke check Arduino #2 things should go much better!)
>
It's a good reason to keep some of the ATMega328 PDIP based versions of
the Arduino handy. If you cook it, you just stick the bootloader on a new
one and go. You'll need to build an ICP cable or have an STK500 (or
similar) programmer to burn the bootloader on it though.

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Re: [simpits-tech] Arduino, Part Deaux... [message #2077 is a reply to message #2076 ] Tue, 22 February 2011 13:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Got me some of these:
CS4122

Mouser still has them. I've never soldered a SOIC device before... looks like a trip to Fryes is warranted!


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On Tue, 22 Feb 2011, raysot@comcast.net wrote:

>
> For data to work, it must be beautiful :-)
>
> Yep! Gonna fight those H-Bridges every step of the way.
>
> The Serial link seems a more elegant solution. I could [probably] get
> the arduino to work supporting multiple h-bridges but I think the timing
> issues would really be a problem (for me) since the Arduino is a
> single-threaded system.
>
Well keep in mind that if memory serves, you don't need multiple threads
to drive those things. You set a value on the port and it'll stay there
until you tell it otherwise. I could be wrong of course - I haven't had
time to play with them yet.

What chip did you find for driving the air-cores serially?

g.
> In my upcoming attempt I'm excited about grabbing a byte, then sending
> it to the appropriate aircore driver. Seems simple...
>
> (As long as I don't smoke check Arduino #2 things should go much better!)
>
It's a good reason to keep some of the ATMega328 PDIP based versions of
the Arduino handy. If you cook it, you just stick the bootloader on a new
one and go. You'll need to build an ICP cable or have an STK500 (or
similar) programmer to burn the bootloader on it though.

g.


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Re: [simpits-tech] Arduino, Part Deaux... [message #2079 is a reply to message #2077 ] Tue, 22 February 2011 14:39 Go to previous message
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On Tue, 22 Feb 2011, raysot@comcast.net wrote:

> Got me some of these:
> CS4122
>
> Mouser still has them. I've never soldered a SOIC device before... looks
> like a trip to Fryes is warranted!

Ow. I hope you don't need many, they're an EOL part and no visible
replacement.

g.

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