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[simpits-tech] cool project [message #1705] Mon, 27 September 2010 12:05 Go to next message
Gene Buckle is currently offline Gene Buckle
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See this post:

http://www.mycockpit.org/forums/showthread.php/20018-My-hybr id-cockpit-build?p=110128

The guy has done a neat job with building a very small flight deck.

I asked for the SketchUp file for it and I posted DXF exports the shell
itself today. See the last post on page 3 for the link to the zip file.

g.


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Re: [simpits-tech] cool project [message #1706 is a reply to message #1705 ] Mon, 27 September 2010 13:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That *is* neat! If I didn't have nine hundred and eighty thirteen
other projects I'd be cutting MDF right now :)

SeanG


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>
> See this post:
>
>
http://www.mycockpit.org/forums/showthread.php/20018-My-hybr id-cockpit-
> build?p=110128
>
> The guy has done a neat job with building a very small flight deck.
>
> I asked for the SketchUp file for it and I posted DXF exports the
shell
> itself today. See the last post on page 3 for the link to the zip
file.
>
> g.
>
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Re: [simpits-tech] cool project [message #1707 is a reply to message #1706 ] Mon, 27 September 2010 14:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Tue, 28 Sep 2010, Sean Galbraith wrote:

> That *is* neat! If I didn't have nine hundred and eighty thirteen
> other projects I'd be cutting MDF right now :)
>

I'm thinking about tweaking it a bit so there's locking tabs on all the
parts and then cutting a set on the 'bot. I'd add more stringers and
maybe cut down the material thickness to 1/2" to save weight & expense.

g.



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Re: [simpits-tech] cool project [message #1709 is a reply to message #1705 ] Mon, 27 September 2010 13:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Mon, 27 Sep 2010, Gene Buckle wrote:

> See this post:
>
> http://www.mycockpit.org/forums/showthread.php/20018-My-hybr id-cockpit-build?p=110128
>
> The guy has done a neat job with building a very small flight deck.


Very nice!

I miss not getting my hands dirty on a fresh build. I think in some ways
it's also harder working with an existing cockpit.


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Re: [simpits-tech] cool project [message #1710 is a reply to message #1709 ] Mon, 27 September 2010 14:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Mon, 27 Sep 2010, Roy Coates wrote:

> On Mon, 27 Sep 2010, Gene Buckle wrote:
>
>> See this post:
>>
>> http://www.mycockpit.org/forums/showthread.php/20018-My-hybr id-cockpit-build?p=110128
>>
>> The guy has done a neat job with building a very small flight deck.
>
>
> Very nice!
>
> I miss not getting my hands dirty on a fresh build. I think in some ways
> it's also harder working with an existing cockpit.
>
It's a LOT harder with an existing shell. Worse if the shell is stripped
out.

The neat thing with his design is that the MIP is designed around three
off the shelf 17" LCD panels that have been stripped out of their plastic
enclosures.

g.

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Re: [simpits-tech] cool project [message #1712 is a reply to message #1705 ] Mon, 27 September 2010 21:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gene
Could you provide a link for us non members of Mycockpit?

David
www.737FlightSim.com


At 12:05 PM 9/27/2010 -0700, you wrote:
>See this post:
>
> http://www.mycockpit.org/forums/showthread.php/20018-My-hybr id-cockpit-build?p=110128
>
>The guy has done a neat job with building a very small flight deck.
>
>I asked for the SketchUp file for it and I posted DXF exports the shell
>itself today. See the last post on page 3 for the link to the zip file.
>
>g.
>
>
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Re: [simpits-tech] cool project [message #1713 is a reply to message #1712 ] Mon, 27 September 2010 22:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ditto


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> Gene
> Could you provide a link for us non members of Mycockpit?
>
> David
> www.737FlightSim.com
>
>
> At 12:05 PM 9/27/2010 -0700, you wrote:
>>See this post:
>>
>> http://www.mycockpit.org/forums/showthread.php/20018-My-hybr id-cockpit-build?p=110128
>>
>>The guy has done a neat job with building a very small flight deck.
>>
>>I asked for the SketchUp file for it and I posted DXF exports the shell
>>itself today. See the last post on page 3 for the link to the zip file.
>>
>>g.
>>
>>
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Re: [simpits-tech] cool project [message #1715 is a reply to message #1712 ] Tue, 28 September 2010 06:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Mon, 27 Sep 2010, David C. Allen wrote:

> Gene
> Could you provide a link for us non members of Mycockpit?
>
Yep, sorry about that!

http://www.diy-cockpits.org/files/shell_drawings.zip

I'll ask Ricardo if it's ok if I make the SketchUp file available for
download.

g.

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Re: [simpits-tech] cool project [message #1733 is a reply to message #1715 ] Tue, 28 September 2010 19:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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At 06:11 AM 9/28/2010 -0700, you wrote:
>On Mon, 27 Sep 2010, David C. Allen wrote:
>
> > Gene
> > Could you provide a link for us non members of Mycockpit?
> >
>Yep, sorry about that!
>
>http://www.diy-cockpits.org/files/shell_drawings.zip

Gene
What version of DXF did you use, I get an "INVALID" dxf file.

David
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Re: [simpits-tech] cool project [message #1734 is a reply to message #1733 ] Wed, 29 September 2010 06:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Tue, 28 Sep 2010, David C. Allen wrote:

> At 06:11 AM 9/28/2010 -0700, you wrote:
>> On Mon, 27 Sep 2010, David C. Allen wrote:
>>
>>> Gene
>>> Could you provide a link for us non members of Mycockpit?
>>>
>> Yep, sorry about that!
>>
>> http://www.diy-cockpits.org/files/shell_drawings.zip
>
> Gene
> What version of DXF did you use, I get an "INVALID" dxf file.

That's weird. On just one file or all of them? DoubleCAD opens them just
fine, although I've not tried AutoCAD 2009.

I just spot checked a few using AutoCAD 2007 and they opened without
error.

g.

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Re: [simpits-tech] cool project [message #1735 is a reply to message #1734 ] Wed, 29 September 2010 08:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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At 06:15 AM 9/29/2010 -0700, you wrote:
>On Tue, 28 Sep 2010, David C. Allen wrote:
>
> > At 06:11 AM 9/28/2010 -0700, you wrote:
> >> On Mon, 27 Sep 2010, David C. Allen wrote:
> >>
> >>> Gene
> >>> Could you provide a link for us non members of Mycockpit?
> >>>
> >> Yep, sorry about that!
> >>
> >> http://www.diy-cockpits.org/files/shell_drawings.zip
> >
> > Gene
> > What version of DXF did you use, I get an "INVALID" dxf file.
>
>That's weird. On just one file or all of them? DoubleCAD opens them just
>fine, although I've not tried AutoCAD 2009.
>
>I just spot checked a few using AutoCAD 2007 and they opened without
>error.

Gene

Well none of them open with autocad 2004 or inventor 7.

David


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Re: [simpits-tech] cool project [message #1736 is a reply to message #1735 ] Wed, 29 September 2010 08:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Wed, 29 Sep 2010, David C. Allen wrote:

>> I just spot checked a few using AutoCAD 2007 and they opened without
>> error.
>
> Gene
>
> Well none of them open with autocad 2004 or inventor 7.
>
Errrr. That's probably because I recall saving them in AutoCAD 2007 DXF
format. *sheepish grin*

Wanna try loading & re-saving with DoubleCAD (free) or do I need to
re-export using an older DXF format?

g.

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Re: [simpits-tech] cool project [message #1737 is a reply to message #1736 ] Wed, 29 September 2010 08:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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At 08:18 AM 9/29/2010 -0700, you wrote:
>On Wed, 29 Sep 2010, David C. Allen wrote:
>
> >> I just spot checked a few using AutoCAD 2007 and they opened without
> >> error.
> >
> > Gene
> >
> > Well none of them open with autocad 2004 or inventor 7.
> >
>Errrr. That's probably because I recall saving them in AutoCAD 2007 DXF
>format. *sheepish grin*

That's why, where is the fish when you need it!

>Wanna try loading & re-saving with DoubleCAD (free) or do I need to
>re-export using an older DXF format?

No need I just wanted to look. I always save DXF's as R12 version, so
the guys with the old water jet can open them.

David
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Re: [simpits-tech] cool project [message #1738 is a reply to message #1737 ] Wed, 29 September 2010 08:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Wed, 29 Sep 2010, David C. Allen wrote:

> At 08:18 AM 9/29/2010 -0700, you wrote:
>> On Wed, 29 Sep 2010, David C. Allen wrote:
>>
>>>> I just spot checked a few using AutoCAD 2007 and they opened without
>>>> error.
>>>
>>> Gene
>>>
>>> Well none of them open with autocad 2004 or inventor 7.
>>>
>> Errrr. That's probably because I recall saving them in AutoCAD 2007 DXF
>> format. *sheepish grin*
>
> That's why, where is the fish when you need it!
>
I think Roy still has custody of it.

>> Wanna try loading & re-saving with DoubleCAD (free) or do I need to
>> re-export using an older DXF format?
>
> No need I just wanted to look. I always save DXF's as R12 version, so
> the guys with the old water jet can open them.
>
Ok. I will try to remember to re-export the whole set when I do the
interior parts.

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Re: [simpits-tech] cool project [message #1739 is a reply to message #1738 ] Wed, 29 September 2010 08:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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At 08:46 AM 9/29/2010 -0700, you wrote:
>On Wed, 29 Sep 2010, David C. Allen wrote:
>
> > At 08:18 AM 9/29/2010 -0700, you wrote:
> >> On Wed, 29 Sep 2010, David C. Allen wrote:
> >>
> >>>> I just spot checked a few using AutoCAD 2007 and they opened without
> >>>> error.
> >>>
> >>> Gene
> >>>
> >>> Well none of them open with autocad 2004 or inventor 7.
> >>>
> >> Errrr. That's probably because I recall saving them in AutoCAD 2007 DXF
> >> format. *sheepish grin*
> >
> > That's why, where is the fish when you need it!
> >
>I think Roy still has custody of it.

Roy has everything! ! ! !

> >> Wanna try loading & re-saving with DoubleCAD (free) or do I need to
> >> re-export using an older DXF format?
> >
> > No need I just wanted to look. I always save DXF's as R12 version, so
> > the guys with the old water jet can open them.
> >
>Ok. I will try to remember to re-export the whole set when I do the
>interior parts.

Ok thanks

David
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Re: [simpits-tech] cool project [message #1740 is a reply to message #1739 ] Wed, 29 September 2010 09:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Wed, 29 Sep 2010, David C. Allen wrote:

> > > That's why, where is the fish when you need it!
> > >
> >I think Roy still has custody of it.
>
> Roy has everything! ! ! !

*groan* I wish.


Just for your amusement... I'm working on a Tornado cockpit at the moment.
It was built as a sim by BAe many moons ago.

Apart from the skin, just about everything else is made of alloy plate
about 1cm thick. It weighs in at about 650Kg.

After this job I'll be more than qualified to get into ship-building!

Will post pics when I remember/have time.

Roy.

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Re: [simpits-tech] cool project [message #1741 is a reply to message #1740 ] Wed, 29 September 2010 10:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Wed, 29 Sep 2010, Roy Coates wrote:

> On Wed, 29 Sep 2010, David C. Allen wrote:
>
>>>> That's why, where is the fish when you need it!
>>>>
>>> I think Roy still has custody of it.
>>
>> Roy has everything! ! ! !
>
> *groan* I wish.
>
>
> Just for your amusement... I'm working on a Tornado cockpit at the moment.
> It was built as a sim by BAe many moons ago.
>
> Apart from the skin, just about everything else is made of alloy plate
> about 1cm thick. It weighs in at about 650Kg.
>
That's kind of weird. Was it on a motion base or something?

g.


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Re: [simpits-tech] cool project [message #1742 is a reply to message #1741 ] Wed, 29 September 2010 09:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Wed, 29 Sep 2010, Gene Buckle wrote:

> > Apart from the skin, just about everything else is made of alloy plate
> > about 1cm thick. It weighs in at about 650Kg.
> >
> That's kind of weird. Was it on a motion base or something?


Not that I'm aware of or can see from the structure. Each of the four legs
it stands on must weigh ooh.. about 100lb's a piece?

The story I got (I really want this clarified) was that this cockpit was
used to develop the layout/systems for the Panavia Tornado. After being
mothballed for some time it was then used to help develop toys for the
Typhoon.

Now - it's one of my toys. A heavy one at that !

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Re: [simpits-tech] cool project [message #1743 is a reply to message #1742 ] Wed, 29 September 2010 10:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Wed, 29 Sep 2010, Roy Coates wrote:

> On Wed, 29 Sep 2010, Gene Buckle wrote:
>
>>> Apart from the skin, just about everything else is made of alloy plate
>>> about 1cm thick. It weighs in at about 650Kg.
>>>
>> That's kind of weird. Was it on a motion base or something?
>
>
> Not that I'm aware of or can see from the structure. Each of the four legs
> it stands on must weigh ooh.. about 100lb's a piece?
>
Jeeze.

> The story I got (I really want this clarified) was that this cockpit was
> used to develop the layout/systems for the Panavia Tornado. After being
> mothballed for some time it was then used to help develop toys for the
> Typhoon.
>
Fit & Finish model maybe? The Boeing Museum of Flight has the F/A-18
model that MACDAC built for the Navy. it's a full size jet made out of
wood & fiberglass. Pretty cool display.

g.


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Re: [simpits-tech] cool project [message #1744 is a reply to message #1743 ] Wed, 29 September 2010 11:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Roy Coates is currently offline Roy Coates
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On Wed, 29 Sep 2010, Gene Buckle wrote:

> > The story I got (I really want this clarified) was that this cockpit was
> > used to develop the layout/systems for the Panavia Tornado. After being
> > mothballed for some time it was then used to help develop toys for the
> > Typhoon.
> >
> Fit & Finish model maybe? The Boeing Museum of Flight has the F/A-18
> model that MACDAC built for the Navy. it's a full size jet made out of
> wood & fiberglass. Pretty cool display.


It was avionics work. There's about $1000 worth of DIN rail connectors
still in there.

I'll post pics as I build it back up.

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Re: [simpits-tech] cool project [message #1745 is a reply to message #1744 ] Wed, 29 September 2010 13:06 Go to previous message
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On Wed, 29 Sep 2010, Roy Coates wrote:

> On Wed, 29 Sep 2010, Gene Buckle wrote:
>
>>> The story I got (I really want this clarified) was that this cockpit was
>>> used to develop the layout/systems for the Panavia Tornado. After being
>>> mothballed for some time it was then used to help develop toys for the
>>> Typhoon.
>>>
>> Fit & Finish model maybe? The Boeing Museum of Flight has the F/A-18
>> model that MACDAC built for the Navy. it's a full size jet made out of
>> wood & fiberglass. Pretty cool display.
>
>
> It was avionics work. There's about $1000 worth of DIN rail connectors
> still in there.
>
Ahh, neat.

> I'll post pics as I build it back up.

Cool. I look forward to that.

g.

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