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[simpits-tech] hybrid cockpit build... [message #1777] Sun, 10 October 2010 11:51 Go to next message
Gene Buckle  is currently offline Gene Buckle
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For those interested, I've uploaded a new set of parts, this time in an
earlier DXF format. I've also annotated them with regard to angle cuts.

http://www.diy-cockpits.org/files/shell_parts_10Oct10.zip

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Re: [simpits-tech] hybrid cockpit build... [message #1778 is a reply to message #1777 ] Sun, 10 October 2010 13:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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At 11:51 AM 10/10/2010 -0700, you wrote:
>For those interested, I've uploaded a new set of parts, this time in an
>earlier DXF format. I've also annotated them with regard to angle cuts.
>
>http://www.diy-cockpits.org/files/shell_parts_10Oct10.zip


Thanks Gene, now the older version of DXF works.

Do you have a top / plan view that shows how it all go's together?

David
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Re: [simpits-tech] hybrid cockpit build... [message #1779 is a reply to message #1778 ] Sun, 10 October 2010 13:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gene Buckle  is currently offline Gene Buckle
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On Sun, 10 Oct 2010, David C. Allen wrote:

> At 11:51 AM 10/10/2010 -0700, you wrote:
>> For those interested, I've uploaded a new set of parts, this time in an
>> earlier DXF format. I've also annotated them with regard to angle cuts.
>>
>> http://www.diy-cockpits.org/files/shell_parts_10Oct10.zip
>
>
> Thanks Gene, now the older version of DXF works.
>
> Do you have a top / plan view that shows how it all go's together?
>
Not quite yet. I haven't started assembling the parts in Inventor yet.
There are _zero_ dimensions on the SketchUp model. It makes things
problematic.

Note - for those that look at a jig saw in awe, stay the hell away from
this project. It's NOT builder friendly. :)

g.


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Re: [simpits-tech] hybrid cockpit build... [message #1780 is a reply to message #1779 ] Sun, 10 October 2010 13:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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At 01:22 PM 10/10/2010 -0700, you wrote:
>On Sun, 10 Oct 2010, David C. Allen wrote:
>
> > At 11:51 AM 10/10/2010 -0700, you wrote:
> >> For those interested, I've uploaded a new set of parts, this time in an
> >> earlier DXF format. I've also annotated them with regard to angle cuts.
> >>
> >> http://www.diy-cockpits.org/files/shell_parts_10Oct10.zip
> >
> >
> > Thanks Gene, now the older version of DXF works.
> >
> > Do you have a top / plan view that shows how it all go's together?
> >
>Not quite yet. I haven't started assembling the parts in Inventor yet.
>There are _zero_ dimensions on the SketchUp model. It makes things
>problematic.

What is the material thickness?

>Note - for those that look at a jig saw in awe, stay the hell away from
>this project. It's NOT builder friendly. :)

What sim project is? They are all off the deep end of the pool!

David
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Re: [simpits-tech] hybrid cockpit build... [message #1781 is a reply to message #1780 ] Sun, 10 October 2010 14:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gene Buckle  is currently offline Gene Buckle
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On Sun, 10 Oct 2010, David C. Allen wrote:

>> Not quite yet. I haven't started assembling the parts in Inventor yet.
>> There are _zero_ dimensions on the SketchUp model. It makes things
>> problematic.
>
> What is the material thickness?
>
All those parts are 3/4"

>> Note - for those that look at a jig saw in awe, stay the hell away from
>> this project. It's NOT builder friendly. :)
>
> What sim project is? They are all off the deep end of the pool!
>
Well it started out with a project a guy was posting about - he'd done the
artwork in SketchUp for his project. It's a "stand-off" scale Embraer
Legacy 600. He showed the SketchUp model pics on MyCockpit.org and they
went nuts for it. I asked for and receieved a copy of the SketchUp model
in exchange for DXF files. I don't know if he knew you could use SketchUp
Pro for 8 hours - it can export DXF files easily.

There's no annotation at all in the model - it's very obviously not a
project he expected others to build. There's partial geometry present
that screams, "I'm gonna see how that looks" in a few spots.

I've actually got the center console done in Inventor - here's what it
looks like right now:
http://www.diy-cockpits.org/images/center_console_test.png

There's more work to do on it of course. I've got to examine the model
more to see what needs to get tweaked a bit.

I also have the top & bottom rails for the instrument panel support as
well as the stiles for it drawn, but not knowing how wide & higha de-cased
17" LCD panel is, I want to wait until I've got that detail before
finishing it.

AFAIK, the instrument panel will take 2 17" panels for the capt & fo sides
and a 15" panel for the standbys and EICAS. One more would fit out the
FMS pair mounted in the center console. If you look for Embraer 145+
pics, you'll get an idea of the general layout.

The dimensions that Roy gave me will go towards making a 3D model that is
close in appearance to the rams' horn style used in the 600 and other
newer Embraer models. It would look neat carved out of a baltic birch
laminate. I've never used the Cut-3D program I bought with the 'bot and
it would be an interesting subject to carve.

I may never build this thing, but it sure is fun fiddling with it. :)

g.

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Re: [simpits-tech] hybrid cockpit build... [message #1782 is a reply to message #1781 ] Sun, 10 October 2010 19:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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> I may never build this thing, but it sure is fun fiddling with it. :)

I just did a quick mental tally of the various projects you "fiddle" with,
and I'm amazed you have time for another!

Brian


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Re: [simpits-tech] hybrid cockpit build... [message #1783 is a reply to message #1782 ] Mon, 11 October 2010 07:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Sun, 10 Oct 2010, brian@sikkema.us wrote:

>
>> I may never build this thing, but it sure is fun fiddling with it. :)
>
> I just did a quick mental tally of the various projects you "fiddle" with,
> and I'm amazed you have time for another!
>
With just my current list, I'll be caught up 24 years and 3 months after
I've died. :)

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Re: [simpits-tech] hybrid cockpit build... [message #1784 is a reply to message #1783 ] Mon, 11 October 2010 06:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Mon, 11 Oct 2010, Gene Buckle wrote:

> On Sun, 10 Oct 2010, brian@sikkema.us wrote:
>
> >
> >> I may never build this thing, but it sure is fun fiddling with it. :)
> >
> > I just did a quick mental tally of the various projects you "fiddle" with,
> > and I'm amazed you have time for another!
> >
> With just my current list, I'll be caught up 24 years and 3 months after
> I've died. :)


And buried in a box made of fir-faced plywood that you'd swear was made on
a shop-bot ...


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Re: [simpits-tech] hybrid cockpit build... [message #1785 is a reply to message #1784 ] Mon, 11 October 2010 08:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Mon, 11 Oct 2010, Roy Coates wrote:

> On Mon, 11 Oct 2010, Gene Buckle wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 10 Oct 2010, brian@sikkema.us wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>> I may never build this thing, but it sure is fun fiddling with it. :)
>>>
>>> I just did a quick mental tally of the various projects you "fiddle" with,
>>> and I'm amazed you have time for another!
>>>
>> With just my current list, I'll be caught up 24 years and 3 months after
>> I've died. :)
>
>
> And buried in a box made of fir-faced plywood that you'd swear was made on
> a shop-bot ...

There's some 3/4" african maple plywood I've had my eye on....

g.

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Re: [simpits-tech] hybrid cockpit build... [message #1787 is a reply to message #1784 ] Mon, 11 October 2010 13:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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> > With just my current list, I'll be caught up 24 years and 3 months
after
> > I've died. :)
>
>
> And buried in a box made of fir-faced plywood that you'd swear was
made on
> a shop-bot ...

And you can just hear him saying "Ya know, if I shave a 1/16 of that
bit, then the fit would be perfect! Now I just need to do the exploded
view and everyone could build one for themselves, the plans for which I
will upload for free....."

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Re: [simpits-tech] hybrid cockpit build... [message #1788 is a reply to message #1787 ] Mon, 11 October 2010 14:07 Go to previous message
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On Tue, 12 Oct 2010, Sean Galbraith wrote:

>>> With just my current list, I'll be caught up 24 years and 3 months
> after
>>> I've died. :)
>>
>>
>> And buried in a box made of fir-faced plywood that you'd swear was
> made on
>> a shop-bot ...
>
> And you can just hear him saying "Ya know, if I shave a 1/16 of that
> bit, then the fit would be perfect! Now I just need to do the exploded
> view and everyone could build one for themselves, the plans for which I
> will upload for free....."
>
...and 27 days, 16 hours. *sigh*

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